Sainz steunt idee Renault voor gebruik vier motoren

  • Gepubliceerd op 09 maa 2018 09:20
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  • Door: Bjorn Smit

Carlos Sainz steunt het door Renault geopperde idee om in 2018 vier motoren per auto te gebruiken in plaats van de toegestane drie. De Spanjaard denkt dat Renault daar alleen maar voordeel van kan hebben in de ontwikkelingswedloop. 

Cyril Abiteboul verkondigde eerder deze week dat Renault overweegt om meer motoren per bolide te gaan gebruiken dan de drie die zijn toegestaan. Dat zou voor Renault een voordeel zijn in de ontwikkeling van de krachtbron, zo vertelde hij destijds: "Als de motor langer meegaat, vertraag je de ontwikkeling."

Sainz is het met zijn teambaas eens en denkt dat het een goede strategie is, zo meldt MTV. "We vechten niet voor het kampioenschap, dus we kunnen zoveel motoren gebruiken als we willen. We moeten er gewoon voor zorgen dat elke nieuwe motor een verbetering is van de vorige. Momenteel zitten we in de ontwikkelingsfase van ons project, dus met meer motoren kunnen we verder vooruit komen."

Ik zie ze het liefst terug gaan naar kwalificatie motoren, iedere race een nieuwe motor en voor iedere coureur een reserve auto :)

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  • 9 maa 2018 - 09:31

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  • Ik zie ze het liefst terug gaan naar kwalificatie motoren, iedere race een nieuwe motor en voor iedere coureur een reserve auto :)

    • + 5
    • 9 maa 2018 - 09:31
    • Ik het er ook geen moeite mee dat ze gewoon weer met een vrachtwagen vol motoren op komen draven ieder race weekend.
      Minder motoren is in het leven geroepen als kostenbesparende maatregel, terwijl de aandrijflijn nog nooit zo duur is geweest dan nu...

      • + 1
      • 9 maa 2018 - 10:05
    • jaapdeaap

      Posts: 838

      Ga jij dat sponsoren ?

      • + 2
      • 9 maa 2018 - 10:08
    • dat was een mooie tijd! Speciale kwalificatiemotoren die het maar een kilometer of 80 konden volhouden en 500 toeren meer draaiden etc etc. Volgens mij was dit voor het laatst toegestaan in 2000/2001. Een extreem dure aangelegenheid en er werden voor die motoren vaak exotische lichtere metaalsoorten gebruikt om de hogere prestaties te kunnen bewerkstelligen. Schijnt vooral extreem te zijn geweest in de vorige turbo era in de jaren 80. Rijdende bommetjes.

      • + 1
      • 9 maa 2018 - 10:20
    • Eam50

      Posts: 160

      Als Renault het met 4 motoren kan redden is dat een wereld prestatie ten opzichte van vorig jaar als ze dan ook iedere keer meer vermogen krijgen kan RB misschien meedoen dan krijgen ze naar Rusland hun laatste motor voor de laatste racen kan me niet voor stellen dat merc en Ferrari het zelfde doen alleen ze zeggen het niet .

      • + 1
      • 9 maa 2018 - 10:52
    • @jaapdeaap 09 maa 2018 10:08

      Je kan toch niet bepaald volhouden dat met de huidige regels en restricties het runnen van een F1 goedkoper is geworden.

      Ik vond dit lijstje op internet:
      Team budgets:

      1968 Tyrrell $1.3 million
      1973 Tyrrell $2.5$ million
      1977 Ferrari $12 million
      1978 Brabham $23 million
      1982 McLaren $34 million
      1988 Lotus $50 million
      1990 Ferrari $64 million
      1993 McLaren $81 million
      2013 Ferrari $390 million
      2013 Red Bull Racing $355 million
      2013 Mercedes AMG $398 million

      Ik heb ook de indruk dat de kosten van een F1 motor voor een heel groot deel in de ontwikkeling zitten en minder in de produktie.

      • + 2
      • 9 maa 2018 - 10:56
    • Sun-Tzu

      Posts: 3.385

      @DDevil eens! Al denk ik wel dat de grote teams toch wel met geld blijven smijten om de motoren te verbeteren, ongeacht het aantal motoren dat men mag gebruiken. Belangrijker is het denk ik voor de klantenteams. Hoe meer motoren men in een seizoen mag gebruiken, hoe meer motoren de motorenbouwer kan/moet bouwen, hoe meer de ontwikkelingskosten gespreid kunnen worden in de vraagprijs per motor. Met andere woorden, ik verwacht dat de prijs voor een klantenmotor dan lager uitvalt, wat weer het voordeel geeft dat de kleinere teams meer budget voor de rest van de ontwikkeling van de bolide overhoudt. Etc.

      • + 0
      • 9 maa 2018 - 12:58
    • Rick F1

      Posts: 1.883

      @DRACONIANDEVIL

      En nu met correctie voor inflatie... Dan praten we echt.

      • + 1
      • 9 maa 2018 - 13:17
    • Polleken

      Posts: 936

      Waarom nu pas ? Cristiaan Horner zei het al toen die discussie plaats vond en nu krijgt hij eindelijk bijval !

      • + 0
      • 9 maa 2018 - 13:18
  • DBGates

    Posts: 3.713

    En zo zie je maar hoe stom en ondoordacht deze regel is

    • + 0
    • 9 maa 2018 - 09:42
    • ringo

      Posts: 3.629

      vind personelijk ook dat renault zo iezo de boot gemist heeft, TR had zoiezo de stappen kunnen zetten waardoor de teams als renault en rb kon profiteren , renault was in de volle breeedte te conservatief geweest :)

      • + 0
      • 9 maa 2018 - 11:35
  • Inderdaad een goed idee. Dan kun je de motor twee keer in het seizoen upgraden.

    • + 0
    • 9 maa 2018 - 09:49
  • Kevin-R34

    Posts: 882

    Logisch dat Sainz het wel ziet zitten. Dan heeft hij meer kans om zich in de kijker te rijden met voller vermogen. Voor hem gaat het om dagsuccessen als je niet voor de titel meedoet.

    • + 0
    • 9 maa 2018 - 09:52
    • Red Bull schijnt ook voorstander te zijn en ik ook. Jij zou voor de 3 motoren strategie gaan?

      • + 0
      • 9 maa 2018 - 10:16
    • Bonsai

      Posts: 1.717

      Ik vind het ook beter om voor vier motoren te gaan. Je hoeft dan niet in bepaalde races te gaan sparen om het maar te halen en je hebt 1 keer ergens een gridstraf.

      • + 0
      • 9 maa 2018 - 11:13
    • Kevin-R34

      Posts: 882

      Uit het oogpunt van Renault snap ik het als je tekort komt op Ferrari en Mercedes. Maar het blijft toch een beetje een soort van wanhoopspoging naar mijn mening. Ik denk dat Ferrari en Mercedes het gewoon bij 3 motoren gaan houden.

      • + 0
      • 9 maa 2018 - 11:42
    • Rick F1

      Posts: 1.883

      Aantal motoren is nu onderdeel van tactiek.

      Meer motoren = lagere startplek, maar wel meer vermogen in alle races.
      Simpele kosten-baten analyse.

      • + 0
      • 9 maa 2018 - 13:18
  • Mojito

    Posts: 4.843

    Stel... Renault vind makkelijker aansluiting met de concurrentie op die manier. Goeie kans dat die dezelfde strategie gaan toepassen... en de 3 motor regel eigenlijk als vanzelf nuttelpos maakt.

    • + 0
    • 9 maa 2018 - 09:56
  • Rimmer

    Posts: 11.467

    Overigens heeft James Key verklaard dat Honda drie keer een motor gewisseld heeft waar RBR de gehele wintertest met 1 motor heeft gereden.
    Echter, de Honda wissels waren gepland om meerdere specs te kunnen proberen. Het was dus niet zo dat de motoren gewisseld werden omdat het moest.
    Sterker nog, Key vertelde dat de Honda motor de meest betrouwbare is die ze ooit! tijdens de wintertest gehad hebben.
    Opvallende uitspraken.
    En passent kwam Marko langsgelopen die nog even een prik uitdeelde naar Key en vertelde dat hij heel verrrast was door de media uitingen van laatst.
    Daarmee doelde Marko waarschijnlijk op de verklaring van STR dat zij het fabrieksteam zijn en blijven de komende drie jaar, ook als RBR erbij komt.
    Daar dacht Marko dus anders over haha. Wat een zeer pijnlijk en ongemakkelijk lachje bij Key op het gezicht toverde en grote verwondering bij Ted. :)

    • + 0
    • 9 maa 2018 - 09:57
    • Wat is het toch ook een schatje hehe. Ziet hij dat Key op camera is, denkt hij"da's nou een goed moment om hem effe voor lul te zetten publiekelijk

      • + 0
      • 9 maa 2018 - 10:00
    • Trouwens, hij zegt dat ze 3 motoren hebben gebruikt, dat zijn dus maar 2 wissels ;)

      • + 0
      • 9 maa 2018 - 10:05
  • meister

    Posts: 3.464

    Ik denk dat ze wel 5 motoren nodig zullen hebben.

    • + 0
    • 9 maa 2018 - 10:11
    • Niet overdrijven hé, zo onbetrouwbaar is Abiteboul nou ook weer niet toch? ;)

      • + 0
      • 9 maa 2018 - 11:05
    • nr 76

      Posts: 5.642

      Haha, zou dit seizoen het omslagpunt worden, dat de Renault motoren betrouwbaarder worden dan Abitebouil?

      • + 0
      • 9 maa 2018 - 11:24
  • Overweegt om 4 motoren te gebruiken.... Als ze net zo lekker ''gaan'' als vorig-jaar domweg noodgedwongen... Maken ze er straks een sappig verhaaltje van dat het gepland was...

    • + 0
    • 9 maa 2018 - 20:00

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