Franz Tost: "Samenwerking met Honda bevindt zich op een totaal nieuw niveau"

  • Gepubliceerd op 21 jun 2018 17:52
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  • Door: Danny Sosef

Scuderia Toro Rosso rijdt dit jaar voor het eerst met Honda-motoren en dat gaat naar absolute tevredenheid van iedereen binnen het team. Zowel de coureurs, het management van Red Bull en teambaas Franz Tost zijn uitermate tevreden, zo vertelde hij in een interview met SpeedWeek.

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De 62-jarige Oostenrijker heeft het over een totaal nieuwe beleving en samenwerking: "We hebben het over een compleet nieuwe en andere samenwerking ten opzichte van onze vorige motorenpartners, daar waren wij als team gewoon klant. We kregen onderdelen uit een box en daar moesten we het mee doen."

"Soms zagen die onderdelen er zo oud uit dat je zou denken dat ze uit een container geraapt waren! Gelukkig is dat met Honda absoluut niet het geval. We zitten op een totaal nieuw niveau qua samenwerking. Dat begint al met het ontwerp, hoe de motor in onze auto gebouwd wordt, om optimaal alle ruimte te benutten en de juiste verdeling van het gewicht te bepalen. Ook aan de aerodynamica wordt gedacht en zo kan ik nog wel even doorgaan."

Het kleine Italiaanse team, dat vorig jaar een nieuwe fabriek introk, bezet een gedeelde zevende plaats in het WK constructeurs met 19 punten.

En McLaren krijgt ze al sinds Australie. Want het chassis kan het niet zijn.

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  • 21 jun 2018 - 18:06

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  • Ik ben benieuwd wat ze de rest van het seizoen kunnen. Misschien kunnen ze nog flink verrassen met Gasly. Wellicht vind Hartley zelfs goed zijn draai en scoort die nog regelmatig punten

    • + 1
    • 21 jun 2018 - 17:56
    • Trabant

      Posts: 535

      Zal Ricciardo zijn draai bij McLaren kunnen vinden?

      • + 0
      • 21 jun 2018 - 19:58
    • Grindbak

      Posts: 261

      @TRABANT: Als ze maar betalen...

      • + 1
      • 21 jun 2018 - 21:57
    • Ricciardo gaat niet naar McLaren... alleen als hij echt weg wil bij RBR en geen stoeltje kan krijgen bij Mercedes of Ferrari, dan misschien. Maar ik zie hem dan nog ‘gewoon’ bij RBR blijven. McLaren? Nee. Niet Ricciardo. Perez misschien?

      • + 0
      • 21 jun 2018 - 22:41
    • Nee zie Perez niet terug gaan.

      • + 1
      • 21 jun 2018 - 23:37
  • Zo, Abiteboul, stop dat maar even in je zak.... ‘Soms zagen die onderdelen er zo oud uit dat je zou denken dat ze uit een container geraapt waren’

    • + 6
    • 21 jun 2018 - 17:58
    • Rimmer

      Posts: 11.467

      Hahaha geweldig. Dit zijn toch de uitspraken waar je op wacht. Held van de maand.

      • + 1
      • 21 jun 2018 - 18:04
    • Inderdaad, steek ze ff in je zak.
      Misschien heeft RBR ze nog nodig. ;-)

      • + 3
      • 21 jun 2018 - 18:09
    • Tost is nu ook een meeloper, aldus DutchF1.

      • + 2
      • 21 jun 2018 - 18:23
    • @WOUTER666

      Meeloper niet echt.
      Gewoon PR praatjes net als iedereen.

      • + 0
      • 21 jun 2018 - 18:26
    • Maximo

      Posts: 8.733

      @STOFFELMAN

      Ik herken dat wel van Franse leveranciers ten opzichte van Japanse.

      Kijk maar eens wat voor mooie job ze hebben afgeleverd qua asfalt op Paul Ricard!

      • + 2
      • 21 jun 2018 - 18:47
    • NicoS

      Posts: 16.770

      TR is eind vorig seizoen zwaar genaaid door Renault, om ze af te schepen met tweedehands onderdelen. Zo kon het fabrieksteam Renault die zesde plaats van Toro Rosso in de laatste races afsnoepen. Zoveel is wel duidelijk.
      Ik begrep de frustraties bij Tost wel vorig jaar, maar je bent machteloos als je het moet doen met wat je wordt toegeschoven.

      • + 5
      • 21 jun 2018 - 19:11
    • Snork

      Posts: 18.653

      Ik denk dat Cyril deze woorden van Tost tandenknarsend aanhoort.

      • + 0
      • 21 jun 2018 - 20:04
    • Denk dat hij (ook) doelt op de Ferrari PU / onderdelen.

      • + 1
      • 21 jun 2018 - 20:56
    • Grindbak

      Posts: 261

      Ja, die Abieteboeltje laat zich wel kennen. Hou m'n hart vast voor de rest van het seizoen voor RBR. Met dat kleinzielige, miezerige mannetje kun je je maar op het ergste voorbereiden.

      • + 0
      • 21 jun 2018 - 22:00
  • Die onderdelen gaat RB nu ook krijgen. :)

    • + 3
    • 21 jun 2018 - 18:02
    • En McLaren krijgt ze al sinds Australie. Want het chassis kan het niet zijn.

      • + 11
      • 21 jun 2018 - 18:06
    • Ja alleen krijgen die onderdelen na McLaren nu een 2e kans bij RB.

      • + 1
      • 21 jun 2018 - 18:09
    • 0xygen

      Posts: 1.160

      ‘Soms zagen die onderdelen er zo oud uit dat je zou denken dat ze uit een container geraapt waren’
      Dat verhaal heb ik vaker gehoord bij RBR over Renault. Dat de as al direct kapot is bij aankomst ofzo.

      • + 0
      • 21 jun 2018 - 18:10
    • Mclaren krijgt volgend seizoen de "afdankertjes" uit de Renaultfabriek, de best geteste motoren en onderdelen schroeven ze natuurlijk in hun eigen auto's. Dat is en blijf nu eenmaal het nadeel als je een klantenteam bent. Om over inspraak over hoe de motor en al die andere meuk het beste in het chassis kan worden ingebouwd nog maar te zwijgen.

      • + 1
      • 21 jun 2018 - 18:19
    • Dan staat RB zo voor de rechter en de FIA om ze aan te klagen hoor, En reken dan maar dat ze winnen. Beetje mislukte poging om grappig te zijn dit.

      • + 0
      • 21 jun 2018 - 18:20
    • Rimmer

      Posts: 11.467

      @roy: probleem is dat je dat nooit bewezen krijgt en je er jaren over kan procederen. Het enige dat RBR dan kan doen is Renault publiekelijk door het slijk te halen. Maar de winst is dan gering en het verlies voor Renault marginaal.
      De afstand tussen Renault en RBR is te groot, heel veel winnen ze daar niet mee. Dan willen ze misschien liever de (winnende) data van RBR.
      En ach, RBR gaat geen kampioen worden dit jaar en Daniël al helemaal niet. Die derde plek houden ze ook wel dus heel veel pijn zal het RBR ook niet doen.

      • + 0
      • 21 jun 2018 - 19:38
    • Pipo

      Posts: 4.742

      Maar gelukkig is het chassis van RB zoveel beter dat ze zelfs met 3e rang onderdelen gewoon 3e worden.

      • + 0
      • 21 jun 2018 - 21:22
  • Het begint er steeds meer op te lijken dat Mclaren de grootste oorzaak was in het mislukken van de Mclaren-Honda combinatie.

    Mclaren heeft Honda te hard gepusht met hun Zero-size concept, waardoor het eerste jaar al mislukte. Nadat Mclaren af zag van dat concept, heeft Honda voor het jaar erop eindelijk een motor kunnen bouwen die gebaseerd werdt op het Mercedes concept, en plots was de motor een stuk beter en betrouwbaarder.
    Het 3de jaar liep het weer fout. Na een hoopvol tweede jaar verlangde Mclaren van Honda veel meer PK's. Dat ging dus niet goed. Noodgedwongen terugschroeven bood weer wat betrouwbaarheid.

    Het is toch wel erg apart om te zien dat Honda nu ineens veel beter is nu ze met STR werken. Daar weet men, o.a. dankzij Franz Tost hoe men moet omgaan met de Japanners, en dat men Honda laat bepalen hoe de motor gemaakt wordt, en de auto daar omheen gebouwd wordt. En op die vlakken heeft Mclaren het laten liggen.

    Ik denk dat het vanaf heden een stuk beter zal gaan met Honda, ook in de RBR auto vanwege het feit dat de basis bij STR gelegd is, en zo overgenomen kan worden.

    • + 2
    • 21 jun 2018 - 18:21
    • Bla bla bla heb het nu wel vaak genoeg gelezen...

      • + 1
      • 21 jun 2018 - 18:39
    • Maximo

      Posts: 8.733

      McLaren had waarschijnlijk in 2017 met een Renault motor op dezelfde plek rond gereden als dat ze met de Honda motor deden. Het chassis was toen ook matig, durf ik wel te concluderen nu.

      • + 0
      • 21 jun 2018 - 18:49
    • London

      Posts: 780

      Ben je er klaar mee Alonso fan?! :p

      Vertel eens ff wat leuks dan. Waar hoop jij je grote held volgend jaar te zien rijden? F1, zo ja welk team? Of toch Indy?

      • + 1
      • 21 jun 2018 - 19:16
    • Rimmer

      Posts: 11.467

      Senna: Bovendien had McLaren halverwege het jaar al te kennen gegeven we te gaan dus Honda deed geen moeite met iets moois te komen. Er werd gewoon rustig doorontwikkeld in Japan waarna men in 2018 al met een relatief goede motor aan de start stond. Ook daardoor leek de STR het al beter te doen dan McLaren. Na de tweede spec in Canada is duidelijk dat Honda de boel op de rit heeft en de weg omhoog gevonden heeft.
      Kwestie van tijd nu nog. Volgend jaar staat die motor er echt wel goed voor en zal amper tot niks onderdoen voor Fer en Merc. Dat is voldoende voor RBR.
      Daarnaast roept iedereen dat de nieuwe regels een aderlating voor RBR zijn maar ook dat is nog maar zeer de vraag. Het zal nog meer dan anders aankomen op goede engineering en het maximale uit het aeropakket halen. Ik gok zomaar dat RBR daar meer uit kan halen dan de andere twee topteams.

      • + 3
      • 21 jun 2018 - 19:45
    • Rick F1

      Posts: 1.883

      @AlonsoFan
      Lees je toch lekker niet en... reageer je toch vooral lekker niet?

      • + 1
      • 21 jun 2018 - 21:09
  • meister

    Posts: 3.464

    Je moet alleen niet aan de eer van een Japanner komen.

    • + 0
    • 21 jun 2018 - 19:04
  • Op papier leuk en aardig. RB heeft een goede basis, een exclusieve motor. Meer kan RB echt niet doen.
    Echter, sport is zo onvoorspelbaar als de pest. Ferrari heeft sinds Scheckter 21 jaar moeten wachten, en Schumacher doorbrak in 2000 eindelijk de vloek. Team met meeste budget en mogelijkheden.... Het zegt veel maar ook niks.
    RB had in mijn ogen geen andere keus. Als klantenteam kom je altijd op tweede plan...
    Ik ben opgelucht. RB heeft eindelijk een motor voor zichzelf. En die Honda doet het redelijk.

    • + 2
    • 21 jun 2018 - 20:41
  • Wedden dat Ferrari en Mercedes gaan klagen bij de FIA, want RB kan met STR strolliaans testen en dat is oneerlijk!

    • + 0
    • 21 jun 2018 - 21:18
  • volgens mij is deze deur al open.

    • + 0
    • 21 jun 2018 - 22:47

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