Ralf Schumacher komt met aparte uitspraak: "Formule 1 is groener dan Formule E"

  • Gepubliceerd op 12 maa 2020 10:26
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  • Door: Brick van Boxtel

De maatregelen die de Formule 1 heeft getroffen om de schade aan het milieu te beperken, overtreffen nu al die van de Formule E, zo beweert ex-Formule 1-coureur Ralf Schumacher. De meervoudig racewinnaar verklaarde dat autofabrikanten "verbaasd zijn" over de milieuimpact van de volledig elektrische koningsklasse. In de Formule E rijden onder andere Nyck de Vries en Robin Frijns.

"Als je kijkt naar de dieselgeneratoren die ze (de Formule E-teams red.) gebruiken om hun krachtige accu's op te laden, dan garandeer ik bijna dat de Formule 1 beter is", vertelde hij aan de krant Münchner Merkur.

Elektrische auto’s hebben een accu ingebouwd, die snel energie kan overbrengen, die zorgt voor een zeer snelle acceleratie. De Duitser zei dat elektrische technologie fascinerend is waar de teams gebruik van maken: "Maar ik heb het gevoel dat de fabrikanten zich, ook onder politieke druk, haasten naar technologie die nog niet volledig is doordacht.” Zo kunnen de autofabrikanten die meestrijden in het kampioenschap, niet alleen hun macht tonen, maar ook de automarkt voor elektrische auto’s verder ontwikkelen.

Onlangs kondigde de Formule 1 en Liberty aan dat het in 2030 klimaatneutraal wil zijn: "Ik denk dat de Formule 1 heeft ingezien dat hij groener en efficiënter moet zijn", aldus Schumacher. "Ze stellen klimaatdoelen en praten over koolstof neutrale biobrandstof, wat ik een geweldig idee vind", voegde de voormalige Williams- en Toyota-coureur toe.

De broer van Michel Schumacher herhaalde ook soortgelijke opmerkingen van Lewis Hamilton, die suggereren dat de Formule 1 het ideale onderzoeksplatform is om het snelste te zijn met duurzame nieuwe technologieën. "De ervaring die de engineers opdoen in de Formule 1 en de ongelooflijk efficiënte nieuwe technologie die daar kan worden getest, is van onschatbare waarde voor de relevante bedrijven.”

SEN1

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FE is niet aan te zien (stratencircuits). En al helemaal niet aan te horen. Ik heb serieus moeite met het kijken van die raceklasse. Blijf er geen zak aan vinden. Doe mij maar Indy en F1.

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  • 12 maa 2020 - 10:39

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  • Hornox

    Posts: 37

    En daar heeft Ralf helemaal gelijk. Er draaien op een raceweekend 24/7 tientallen dieselgeneratoren. Die worden wel tactisch buiten beeld geplaatst overigens.

    • + 1
    • 12 maa 2020 - 10:38
    • Scheelt dat F1 zo goed bezig is. Met een handvol 747's kris kras de wereld rond (even midden in Europese seizoen naar Canada en weer terug bijvoorbeeld) vliegen is natuurlijk ontzettend duurzaam. Ik ben ook geen fan van FE maar het 'alles wat anders bashen' vind ik zo kortzichtig en dom.
      Bovendien draaien die aggregaten op synthetische diesel. 90% minder uitstoot. Dit soort uitspraken van mensen die in de publiciteit staan is gewoon slecht voor Formule E, het suggereert een beeld wat niet klopt en je gaat volledig voorbij aan feit dat elektrisch rijden/racen nog in de kinderschoenen staat. Vergelijk seizoen 1 eens met nu bijvoorbeeld. Maar ik denk dat er in 1890 ook wel iemand was die lastig kon wennen dat auto's z'n paard en wagen zouden verdrijven...

      • + 1
      • 12 maa 2020 - 12:17
    • De broer van michel heeft zeker gelijk, maar de milieu gekkies zien dat niet zo. Helaas.

      • + 0
      • 12 maa 2020 - 14:23
    • @Zoefroef: ik ben geen ‘milieu gekkie’ maar iemand die niet op basis van onwetendheid over zaken een oordeel velt die nog in de kinderschoenen staat.

      • + 1
      • 12 maa 2020 - 18:58
    • Reno

      Posts: 1.575

      @Beemerdude, je hebt (bijna) helemaal gelijk.
      Heb alle reacties hier gelezen.
      Veelal uit het gezichtsveld van de "fossiele" autosport fan.
      Er is nog veel ontwikkelingswerk te verrichten in de echte kennis.
      Verder denk ik dat een RS niet "weet" waar hij het over heeft.

      Denk niet dat de FE nog in kinderschoenen staat. Men is al heel ver.

      • + 0
      • 13 maa 2020 - 16:00
    • @Reno; ik bedoel meer dat de techniek van BEV's nog in de kinderschoenen staat. Er komt binnen een paar jaar een accutechniek obv silicium ipv kobalt, die minimaal 4 x meer energiedichtheid per kilo heeft, met hoger amperage is te snelladen tot 90% en op hetzelfde volume ook nog de helft weegt en ook nog nauwelijks degrading van de accu heeft. In oa Duitsland, Noorwegen en Zwitserland hebben de knappe koppen al in testopstellingen 50.000 x ontladen en weer opgeladen zonder noemenswaardig verval in capaciteit. Duurt nog even voor het de praktijk in kan, maar een auto van formaat Tesla Model S met 200 Kwh die dan 300 kilo minder weegt als de huidige en een werkelijke range heeft van 700 kilometer minimaal lacht mij toch wel toe. Dus ik denk dat je wel kunt stellen dat BEV's in de kinderschoenen staan...

      • + 1
      • 14 maa 2020 - 15:59
    • Reno

      Posts: 1.575

      @Beemerdude, de kWh per kg accu ligt nu zo op een 245W. De weg naar 300 is nog maar kort en mogelijk op de batterij dag van T zal dit worden aangekondigd incl. hun nieuwe accu samenstelling (kobalt vrij) en veel meer laadcycles mogelijk.
      Rijd zelf inmiddels 7 jaar BEV en mag zeggen uit ervaring dat het voor ons klein landje al behoorlijk volwassen en voldoende is. De fossiele "kijk" is nog steeds op basis van km per tank brandstof, terwijl dit totaal niet relevant meer is.
      Kinderschoenen, nee. Op weg naar beter, inderdaad.

      • + 0
      • 15 maa 2020 - 11:29
    • @Reno; ook ik rij 100% BEV en dat is inderdaad voor binnen NL in 95% van de gevallen voldoende met capaciteit zoals ie nu is. Ik weet dat er momenteel 245Wh uit een kilo gehaald kan worden en dat Tesla iets hoger zit en bezig is om cobalt te vervangen door andere ingrediënten (silicium?) en zo 2 vliegen in 1 klap slaan. Maar; je mag het nu allemaal voldoende vinden, we staan relatief echt in de kinderschoenen. De mogelijkheden bij 1000Wh /kilo en nog veel sneller laden zijn echt onvoorstelbaar. Over 5 jaar zijn er 100% BEV's op de markt die 800 kilometer range hebben en die met 350Kw van 0 tot 90% vol gaan. Op het moment dat je het zover hebt is echt dat geluid (wat de meeste mensen maar storend vinden op constante snelheid) nog de enige reden fossiel te gaan...

      • + 0
      • 16 maa 2020 - 14:53
  • SEN1

    Posts: 2.470

    FE is niet aan te zien (stratencircuits). En al helemaal niet aan te horen. Ik heb serieus moeite met het kijken van die raceklasse. Blijf er geen zak aan vinden. Doe mij maar Indy en F1.

    • + 5
    • 12 maa 2020 - 10:39
    • SEN1

      Posts: 2.470

      (+om)

      • + 0
      • 12 maa 2020 - 10:40
    • Joeppp

      Posts: 7.329

      Ik ben het helemaal met je eens. Ik hou van autosport: F1, Indy, Nascar, Rally's noem maar op maar bij de FE val ik in slaap.

      • + 0
      • 12 maa 2020 - 10:57
    • Arie54

      Posts: 4.960

      @SEN1: Daar gaat het hier niet om...

      • + 0
      • 12 maa 2020 - 11:02
    • StevenQ

      Posts: 9.179

      Met stratencircuits is op zich niks mis maar ze rijden op circuits waarvan de meeste nooit geschikt zouden zijn voor serieuze raceklassen.

      • + 0
      • 12 maa 2020 - 11:05
  • Hansnah

    Posts: 413

    Hiermee slaat Der Ralf i.m.o. de spijker op de kop!
    Eigenlijk al in het verlengde van wat Herr Marko vermeldde.
    Naast het dieselgeneratoren-aspect denk ik ook dat het nog minder minder groen is als je meeneemt wat het kost (aan energie , resources & pingels) om de batterijen te ontwikkelen / maken. Daar had de Uni van Luik al ooit een artikel over, maar dat is ook redelijk de kop ingedrukt.

    • + 1
    • 12 maa 2020 - 10:57
  • Arie54

    Posts: 4.960

    Het is omgekeerd. De politiek richt zich naar een richting die de autoindustrie zelf heeft gekozen. De politiek, zeker in Duitsland, is doodsbang de autoindustrie door wat dan ook te hinderen. Dus voorlopig zal het wel elektrisch worden, met alle chaos van dien. Misschien is waterstof wel 'schoner' maar, en ik heb er de ballen verstand van, ik begrijp dat waterstof 'maken' ook niet echt schoon kan.

    • + 0
    • 12 maa 2020 - 11:02
    • Waterstof maken kan heel schoon. Je hoeft alleen maar water onder stroom te zetten. Dit kan goed met hernieuwbare energie. Alleen is het goedkoper om de waterstof te onttrekken uit aardgas en op deze manier wordt de meeste waterstof geproduceerd.

      • + 0
      • 12 maa 2020 - 11:59
    • Waterstof kan heel schoon. Maar dan moet je het opwekken met zonne/wind stroom en dan alleen op de plek waar je het verkoopt. De energiedichtheid van waterstof zoals die in auto's (vloeibare vorm) moet is namelijk om te janken, 4 x zo laag als diesel.

      • + 0
      • 12 maa 2020 - 12:20
  • Hoe zou het toch met zijn broer zijn?

    • + 0
    • 12 maa 2020 - 11:20
    • Bedoel je die andere Duitse ster?

      • + 0
      • 12 maa 2020 - 11:33
    • Buurman

      Posts: 1.872

      "Michel" Schumacher bedoel je?

      • + 1
      • 12 maa 2020 - 12:21
    • Toter Wolf

      Posts: 74

      Die heeft dezelfde mening.

      • + 0
      • 12 maa 2020 - 12:47
  • Nogal simpele redenering.
    Hij garandeert het bijna.
    Dat de dieselmotoren het teniet doen is even grote nonsens dan dat tot nu toe de meeste elektriciteit wordt opgewekt met zonnepanelen.
    Het gebeurt nog steeds met kernenergie.
    Dat het beter en groener zou moeten is iets anders.

    • + 0
    • 12 maa 2020 - 14:55
    • En de nieuwe diesels zijn zo schoon, er gaat vuilere lucht in dan eruit komt, misschien de dieselaggregaten ook wel ?!

      • + 0
      • 12 maa 2020 - 17:04
  • Geen aparte of opvallende uitspraak , argument van dieselagregaten hoorde/las ik eerste seizoen van FE al ... voor de rest heeft hij een punt, Politieke / groene waanzin pusht de electrificering ,, niet gehinderd door enige echte kennis van zaken... de hele materie is gepolitiseerd vanwege een hoax , klimaat verandering , iets wat al vier en een half miljard jaar gebeurd ... Lekker misbruiken en het gepeupel is gek gemaakt met onzin verhalen over zeestijging, etc etc

    • + 0
    • 12 maa 2020 - 16:31
  • De Hulk is groener dan Der Ralf.

    • + 0
    • 12 maa 2020 - 20:46

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