Jan Lammers kraakt Alexander Albon: "Hij reed gewoon slecht"

  • Gepubliceerd op 09 sep 2020 12:00
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  • Door: Arjan Hoefakker

Jan Lammers zegt dat Alexander Albon misschien de mazzel heeft dat hij nog niet aan de kant is gezet door Red Bull Racing, omdat het team geleerd kan hebben van te snel terugzetten van Gasly naar het B-team AlphaTauri.

Volgens Lammers reed Albon ronduit slecht tijdens de Grand Prix van Italië. "Hij deed het echt gewoon verkeerd." Lammers zegt in de NOS F1-podcast dat Albon misschien kan profiteren van de les die Red Bull Racing leerde nu zij nu ontdekken dat Gasly misschien te snel is terug gezet naar het B-team. 

Jan Lammers: "Kijk, ook Red Bull heeft ervan geleerd, ze hebben de les geleerd dat ze een coureur iets langer een kans moeten geven, dan dat er bij Gasly het geval was. Dus misschien dat Albon het voordeel heeft, dat Red Bull geleerd  heeft van de situatie met Gasly en dat ze nu misschien niet Albon nu wel wat langer de tijd willen geven, wat ze misschien bij Gasly ook hadden moeten doen.

"Ze hoeven die keuze niet zo snel te maken", voegt Lammers er nog aan toe. 

Wederopstanding Gasly

Zondag wist Gasly geheel onverwachts de Grote Prijs van Italië te winnen tijdens een knotsgekke race. Een mega-stunt. Volgens Jolyon Palmer bezorgt Gasly de leiding van Red Bull Racing nu kopzorgen met zijn uitstekende prestaties. 

Gasly zijn overwinning is net zo uitzonderlijk als die van de laatste franse gp winnaar in 1996 Monaco.

Samenloop van omstandigheden en op het juiste moment op de juiste plek rijden.

Kort door de bocht?

Zonder code rood of safetycar had Gasly geen schijn van kans gehad op de overwinning en had... [Lees verder]

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  • 9 sep 2020 - 12:21

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  • Politik

    Posts: 8.359

    Logisch.
    Max kwam al niet uit de verf, reed ergens in het middenveld.
    Gezien het kwaliteitsverschil zit er voor Alex dan niet meer in dan p14-p15.

    • + 3
    • 9 sep 2020 - 12:04
    • Snork

      Posts: 18.653

      Mwoah, ik vind alle reacties op wat er in Monza gebeurde erg veel gebaseerd op die ene spreekwoordelijke zwaluw. Albon had al een aantal keren podium gehad als Lewis hem niet achterstevoren had getikt. Was dat niet gebeurd, dan was Albon de juiste keuze geweest.
      Neemt niet weg dat ik denk dat Albon voor nu de verkeerde keuze is. Hij kan niet met de RB16 rijden zoals hij wil rijden. De enige die naast Max het maximale uit de auto kon halen was Ricciardo.
      Gasly nu terug naar Red Bull is een slechte keuze. Zeker voor Gasly zelf. De Alpha Tauri is wat langzamer dan de RB16, maar wel stabieler (zo het lijkt). En dan leeft Gasly op. Dat zag je vorig jaar al meteen nadat hij terug bij Toro Rosso kwam.

      • + 0
      • 9 sep 2020 - 13:20
    • Politik

      Posts: 8.359

      @Snork,

      Ik heb geen kritiek.op Max of Alex ansich.
      Ik geeft enkel aan dat je Albon niet in de top 10 mag verwachten als Verstappen al ergens rond p8 rijdt.

      • + 0
      • 9 sep 2020 - 14:07
    • Snork

      Posts: 18.653

      Politik, mee eens.

      • + 1
      • 9 sep 2020 - 16:36
    • Albon reed met een kapotte vloer in de rondte......

      • + 1
      • 9 sep 2020 - 18:21
  • beerkuh

    Posts: 3.374

    Het mag gezegd worden dat RB ook wel; steken laat vallen, al met al verwacht ik niet dat Gasly het beter gedaan zou hebben in de RB afgelopen weekend, ik persoonlijk denk dat Gasly uitermate geschikt is voor TR maar bij RB weer terug gaat vallen!

    RB valt mij gewoon erg tegen met name de afgelopen races dus niet eens de laatste race! het lijkt er een beetje op dat de geest uit de fles is en ik hoop dat ze beter gaan presteren aankomend weekend, ook hoop ik dat Max ondanks dat ie nu eenmaal de drive heeft om te winnen niet zo overdreven reageert zoals afgelopen weekend, soms zit het gewoon tegen maar om nu zo te roeptoeteren over Honda zal hem niet in dank worden afgenomen

    • + 1
    • 9 sep 2020 - 12:11
  • Misschien zit Albon er wel omdat Red Bull voor 51% in Thaise handen is.

    • + 2
    • 9 sep 2020 - 12:12
    • mario

      Posts: 11.603

      Dat lijkt mij wel zeker...... Daarom blijven ze Albon ook nog steeds de hand boven het hoofd houden.... Albon blijft zeker tot het einde van dit seizoen....

      • + 0
      • 9 sep 2020 - 13:14
    • Snork

      Posts: 18.653

      Laat "misschien" maar weg ;-)

      • + 0
      • 9 sep 2020 - 13:21
  • Gasly zijn overwinning is net zo uitzonderlijk als die van de laatste franse gp winnaar in 1996 Monaco.

    Samenloop van omstandigheden en op het juiste moment op de juiste plek rijden.

    Kort door de bocht?

    Zonder code rood of safetycar had Gasly geen schijn van kans gehad op de overwinning en hadden al deze einsteins die nu roepen gasly naar RedBull het daar nooit over gehad.

    Had Albon na de start niet eieren voor zijn geld gekozen waren Albon, Gasly en ik dacht een Haas aan de rechterkant van Gasly klaar geweest na 500 meter.

    Gasly had al het geluk van de wereld, het winnende staatslot met jackpot had hij met dat geluk ook gekocht op die zondagmiddag, het levert mooie beelden, maar maar het had niets te maken met talent en racepace.

    1 rondje meer en Sainz was er voorbij gevlogen of samen eraf gestuiterd, dan had Stroll gewonnen.

    Kortom, allemaal populistische sensatie journalisten niet gehinderd door gebrek aan kennis.

    Albon is gewogen en te licht bevonden is wat Lammers zegt, ben ik het mee eens, maar onder druk van de spotlights kwam Honda ook niet uit de misere bij McLaren, dat is ze gelukt in de schaduw bij ToroRosso/AlphaTauri.

    Gasly nu terug naar RedBull zou hij weer in een situatie kunnen komen waarin hij choked

    • + 5
    • 9 sep 2020 - 12:21
    • walteij

      Posts: 1.987

      Je bent zo goed als je laatste race wordt wel eens geroepen.
      En helaas is dat voor heel veel mensen ook echt zo. Er wordt alleen korte-termijn gekeken en niet naar de langere termijn.

      Zo ook vorig jaar met de Gasly/Albon wissel. Deze heeft nu blijkt, voor Gasly zeker wel goed uitgepakt. Hij zit goed in zijn vel en weet (met veel geluk) nu een race te winnen. Maar hij had ook gewoon helemaal kunnen knakken.

      Wat in ieder geval dit seizoen wel duidelijk is geworden, is dat Gasly beter is dan wat hij bij Red Bull liet zien en dat hij zeker wel een kandidaat kan zijn voor een zitje bij RBR volgend jaar (of in de jaren daarna). De tegenslagen hebben hem sterker gemaakt en hij heeft aardig wat geleerd.

      Red Bull heeft ook wat geleerd, namelijk dat ze talenten inderdaad soms te snel afschrijven of onvoldoende begeleiden, waardoor Gasly vorig jaar zo tegenviel. Hopelijk gaan ze dat vanaf nu ook beter doen.

      • + 1
      • 9 sep 2020 - 13:12
    • Snork

      Posts: 18.653

      Mijn reactie hierboven zit in jullie straatje, eens met wat jullie schrijven.
      Gasly moet vooral dit jaar bij Alpha Tauri willen blijven, daar rijdt hij sneller dan Kvyat en toont hij aan wat hij in huis heeft. In de RB16 gaat ook Gasly wederom falen. Zonde om te proberen. Wellicht volgend jaar, als de RB16 van 2021 stabieler is. Maar bij Red Bull is alles achter de Top-4 niet goed genoeg, de lat ligt hoog en als 2e coureur zal je regelmatig niet in de Top-4 eindigen. En dan ben je direct bestempeld als te langzaam, niet geschikt voor Red Bull, etc.

      • + 0
      • 9 sep 2020 - 13:24
  • Hopelijk krijgt Albon nog de tijd tot het eind van het seizoen. RB viel toch tegen dus je kan het niet helemaal op Albon afschuiven. Om dan weer van rijders te wisselen met Gasly zou ongeloofwaardig zijn.

    • + 0
    • 9 sep 2020 - 12:28
  • h3x6g0n

    Posts: 456

    Goh, weet Jantje dan wat het effect was van de beschadigde vloer op de snelheid van Albon's auto. Knap van 'm, maar ik denk eerder dat hij, zoals gewoonlijk, weer lekker kortzichtig en populistisch aan het roeptoeteren was. Even lekker makkelijk scoren bij de mensen die niet voor zichzelf kunnen nadenken. Best wel lelijk.

    • + 1
    • 9 sep 2020 - 12:56
    • jd2000

      Posts: 6.646

      Best lelijk om een volwassen man die zijn sporen in de racerij heeft verdiend Jantje te noemen. En ja, ik denk inderdaad dat Jan Lammers dat weet.

      • + 0
      • 9 sep 2020 - 17:41
  • John6

    Posts: 8.170

    Bij Red Bull ging alles mis, zowel bij de rijders als bij het team, op naar de volgende GP.

    • + 0
    • 9 sep 2020 - 13:21
  • Heb je 't ook over Max z'n start en herstart gehad Jantje?

    • + 0
    • 9 sep 2020 - 17:24
  • gelooft er iemand dat Max echt een motorprobleem had??? Ik niet ... Die ging echt die race niet uitrijden om hooguit een p11 te kunnen scoren...

    • + 0
    • 9 sep 2020 - 17:34
    • Mette

      Posts: 634

      ja, geloof ik. Eerder in de race hadden ze zijn motorstand al gewijzigd wat alleen mag als het minder performance oplevert en alleen als het gedaan word voor aanwijsbare problemen met de motor. Dus totaal geen reden om te twijfelen

      • + 0
      • 9 sep 2020 - 22:15

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