Helmut Marko vol vertrouwen voor stemming over 'engine freeze'

  • Gepubliceerd op 25 jan 2021 10:16
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra

Het is een belangrijke dag voor Red Bull Racing (en ook Scuderia Alpha Tauri). De leden van de Formule 1 Commissie buigen zich later vandaag over de mogelijke invoering van een engine freeze voor 2022, een bevriezing van de ontwikkeling van de motoren. De uitkomst daarvan is bepalend voor het lot en de toekomst van de twee Formule 1-teams van Red Bull.

Beide renstallen rijden nu nog met Honda-krachtbronnen, maar de Japanse autofabrikant trekt zich na dit jaar terug uit de koningsklasse van de autosport. Het liefst gaan Red Bull Racing en Scuderia Alpha Tauri door met de Honda-motoren, die ze dan in eigen beheer nemen. Ze ontberen echter de middelen en kennis om dan een wedloop met de andere motorleveranciers vol te houden.

Uit kostenoverwegingen en om het speelveld divers en eerlijk te houden zet Red Bull in op een engine freeze. De Formule 1 Commissie bestaat uit 34 leden; de tien Formule 1-teams, de vier motorleveranciers, tien vanuit eigenaar Liberty Media en tien vanuit de internationale autosportbond FIA. Een meerderheid van de stemmen is nodig om de engine freeze er doorheen te krijgen.

Vertrouwen

Red Bull-motorsportadviseur Helmut Marko ziet de stemming met vertrouwen tegemoet. Aan het Duitse RTL en n-tv deelde hij mede: "Ik verwacht dat het goed zal uitpakken voor ons. Er is al een budgetlimiet ingevoerd om de operationele kosten te beteugelen en een salarislimiet voor de rijders. Alleen op gebied van motoren kan men nog onbeperkt spenderen. Het is alleen maar logisch dat we daar ook paal en perk aan stellen."

In grote lijnen is alles al akkoord, stelt Marko. Het is alleen nog een kwestie van details - zoals bijvoorbeeld een regeling voor het geval dat een van de motorleveranciers te ver achterop zou raken - invullen. "Stel dat een van de motoren meer dan 2 procent bij de beste aandrijflijn vandaan komt te zitten, wat doen we dan? Dat soort dingen moeten we nog afspreken, maar daar hebben we nog tijd voor. Het belangrijkste is het bevriezen van de algehele ontwikkeling van de motoren. Dat zou ons in staat stellen om gebruik te blijven maken van de Honda-motoren."

Renault

Maar was als de stemming onverwachts nadelig uitpakt voor Red Bull Racing en Scuderia Alpha Tauri? Red Bull heeft geen plan B, gaf Marko eerder al toe. Door de vangnet-regeling van de Formule 1 zou dan de motorleverancier met de minste klantenteams verplicht zijn om motoren te leveren aan het team zonder motoren. In dit geval zou dat Renault zijn, maar een hereniging met de Franse autofabrikant is wat Red Bull betreft geen optie.

Marko: "Als je een motor koopt, dan krijg je een pakket dat is ontworpen op basis van de wensen van die fabrikant. Om succesvol te zijn heb je gewoon een eigen motor of een eigen motorenpartner nodig. Onze beslissing om het op eigen houtje te willen doen was moedig en vereist een enorme financiële investering. De nieuwe motorformule die in 2025 of 2026 zijn intrede doet, moet gepaard gaan met lagere kosten en een simpelere motor. Dat geeft ons de onafhankelijkheid die we nodig hebben om ook in de toekomst succesvol te zijn."

LimboF1

Posts: 6.088

Ik hoop echt dat men tegen gaat stemmen, want ik blijf het een slecht plan vinden.
Dat ze geen plan B hebben mag wel zijn, maar ik denk niet dat ze de F1 verlaten als er tegen gestemd gaat worden.
Ze willen gewoon niet met Renault in zee en andersom zit Renault ook niet op RBR te wachten.
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  • 25 jan 2021 - 12:53

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  • Zal wel goed komen. Ben wel benieuwd naar de details en uitzonderingen van de engine Freeze. Lagere kosten waar het kan prima, maar vrees dat de F1 binnen nu en 10 jaar een eenheidsworst is met beperkte ontwikkelingsmogelijkheden en veel standaard onderdelen.

    • + 1
    • 25 jan 2021 - 10:46
    • Snork

      Posts: 18.653

      Eenheidworst is het pas echt als iedereen met zelfde chassis en aero moet rijden. Er is gelukkig nog heel veel wat de teams zelf moeten ontwikkelen.

      • + 2
      • 25 jan 2021 - 11:52
    • feuniks

      Posts: 168

      Daar kun je op twee manieren naar kijken. Nu hebben we fabrikanten die op basis van de formule een auto bouwen en kijken hoe ver ze kunnen gaan. Je ziet nu al zeven jaar dat Mercedes dat het beste kan en dus dominant is. Je hoeft niet eens de beste rijders te hebben. Kijk wat er gebeurde toe Russel in de Mercedes terecht kwam. Hij vrat Bottas meteen op en als het team niet had zitten prutsen, dan had hij de race gewoon gewonnen.
      Als je er een spec serie van maakt, dan heeft iedereen gewoon de bouwtekening van de auto en ben je als team beperkt tot bijvoorbeeld het afstellen van de vleugels of het bepalen van de verhoudingen van de versnelling. Maar dan komen wel de echte coureurs boven drijven. Dan maakt het ineens niet meer uit of je in een Mercedes of een Williams rijdt. Dan gaan we naar de Indy of NASCAR situatie, waarbij het halve veld een race kan winnen.
      Dus wat wil je: zie je de auto als een deel van je team, en betekent dat dat als je een slechte auto hebt, je dus ook als team niet kunt winnen, of wil je dat het echt om de mensen draait en waar je je dus wel een keertje kunt vergissen, maar dat je dat niet het hele seizoen blijft achtervolgen?

      • + 0
      • 25 jan 2021 - 14:20
    • El Maximo

      Posts: 215

      Hebben ze de hele nacht doorgepraat? Ik zie nog nergens witte rook...

      • + 2
      • 26 jan 2021 - 09:56
  • Rimmer

    Posts: 11.467

    Ze hebben Cyril alvast gedumpt (ik lees zelfs nergens een keurig dankbericht van Renault voor alle jaren inzet. Wat is daar in godsnaam gebeurt de laatste weken?).
    Daarmee ligt de weg open om straks alsnog terug te keren bij Renault. RBR gaat namelijk geen twee teams terugtrekken en als zodanig hebben ze 100% een plan B. (Lees: Alpine motoren)

    • + 1
    • 25 jan 2021 - 12:51
  • LimboF1

    Posts: 6.088

    Ik hoop echt dat men tegen gaat stemmen, want ik blijf het een slecht plan vinden.
    Dat ze geen plan B hebben mag wel zijn, maar ik denk niet dat ze de F1 verlaten als er tegen gestemd gaat worden.
    Ze willen gewoon niet met Renault in zee en andersom zit Renault ook niet op RBR te wachten.
    Velen zeggen dat Renault hierin de schuldige is, maar dat zie ik anders. Als Renault net als Honda de vrijheid had gekregen in het de ontwikkeling, dan had het er anders kunnen uitzien. Daarbij vond ik de manier hoe RBR met Renault omging niet correct. Renault had niet de beste en betrouwbaarste motor, maar niemand had antwoord op Mercedes. Ik vind na een succesvolle periode dat men een partner niet zo moet behandelen. Renault is toch wel vooruit gegaan, toen ze het heft zelf in handen namen. Kijkende naar Honda en Renault, geeft het toch wel aan dat de wensen van een team niet altijd aansluiten bij de ontwikkeling van de motorleverancier.
    Ik denk dat men niet zo heel slecht af is met Renault bij RBR.

    • + 3
    • 25 jan 2021 - 12:53
    • Musicman

      Posts: 219

      Stel jij koopt een abonnement op F1 tv , maar elke GP weigert de stream ,dan ga je ook klagen ,en niet pas na een paar seizoenen zoals R.B. maar meteen na de 1e race.
      zo ook Red Bull die een motor koopt bij Renault en de beloftes worden niet nagekomen ,,de eerste jaren bleef RedBull rustig ,maar op een gegeven moment konden ze niet anders als zich uit te spreken over Renault omdat er niks veranderde en renault ook al niet meer haar best deed om een kampioenschaps winnend team te ondersteunen met waardig materiaal .

      • + 0
      • 26 jan 2021 - 11:14
  • Denk dat de bull wel los zal lopen. En mocht er een fabrikant zijn met een aantoonbaar mindere motor, dan hoop ik dat die de ruimte krijgt om een inhaalslagje te mogen maken om de aansluiting te vinden.

    • + 0
    • 25 jan 2021 - 13:00
    • Ja, maar daar is Mercedes begrijpelijkerwijs tegen. Dan zullen alle anderen dus vóór moeten stemmen om die 27 stemmen te krijgen.
      Hopelijk horen we vandaag nog iets.

      • + 0
      • 25 jan 2021 - 13:15
    • Ik zie het somber in eerlijk gezegd
      Er spelen altijd belangen die er voor zorgen dat men het niet eens wordt over dit soort zaken

      • + 2
      • 25 jan 2021 - 13:17
    • @Bill als ze er niet uitkomen vandaag dan ga ik ook rellen buiten :D

      • + 0
      • 25 jan 2021 - 13:38
  • jd2000

    Posts: 6.646

    Ga er van uit dat iedereen er mee akkoord gaat. Dat er geen plan B is, dat is geen bluf. Oostenrijkers zijn nogal rechtlijnig en principieel. Mateschitz is iemand die neemt z'n verlies en zet er een dikke streep onder. Hopelijk gaat iedereen akkoord.

    • + 0
    • 25 jan 2021 - 13:34
    • Hopelijk niet anders kan niemand in die tijd aanhaken bij MB.

      • + 0
      • 25 jan 2021 - 13:48
    • Pietje, wie zou er dan eventueel aan moeten kunnen haken als ze door mogen ontwikkelen?

      • + 0
      • 25 jan 2021 - 14:18
    • Ferrari? Renault? Er zijn nog 2 motorleveranciers hoor.

      Hoe dan ook, Marko kan wel veel roepen dat er geen plan B is, aangezien Alpine/Renault moet leveren, gaan ze niet gewoon neen zeggen als dat hun optie is.

      • + 1
      • 25 jan 2021 - 22:18
  • tour71

    Posts: 1.358

    ??? Waarom geen nieuws?

    • + 0
    • 26 jan 2021 - 10:09
    • SpeeDirk

      Posts: 227

      Is er wel een stemming geweest?

      • + 0
      • 26 jan 2021 - 10:38
  • zwanemans

    Posts: 83

    Neem aan dat er al iets bekend is?

    • + 0
    • 26 jan 2021 - 11:25
  • Geen tweetje of iets te vinden nog.. Die zaten gister nog niet op 1 (aandrijf)lijn waarschijnlijk.

    • + 0
    • 26 jan 2021 - 11:32

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