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Fittipaldi vergelijkt Formule 1 en IndyCar: "Het is beter dan de Formule 1"

Fittipaldi vergelijkt Formule 1 en IndyCar: "Het is beter dan de Formule 1"

  • Gepubliceerd op 19 okt 2021 07:41
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  • Door: Bob Plaizier

De Formule 1 wordt wereldwijd gezien als de koningsklasse van de autosport. Over de hele wereld dromen kleine jongens en meisjes van de Formule 1. Misschien niet over de hele wereld want in Amerika is de IndyCar hot en happening. 

Emerson Fittipaldi werd in 1972 en 1974 wereldkampioen in de Formule 1. Na zijn succesvolle Formule 1-loopbaan stapte hij over naar de andere kant van de plas en won de Indy 500 in 1989 en 1993. Hij is een legende in beide klassen en is dan ook prima in staat om ze te vergelijken.

Op de site van de IndyCar is hij heel duidelijk: "Ik sprak laatst met Zak Brown en ik zei dat wat de IndyCar doet fantastisch is en veel leuker om te kijken dan alle andere klassen. Het is beter dan de Formule 1. Soms zijn de races te laat voor ons. Maar mijn zoon is er dol op. Hij is 14 jaar oud en is er helemaal gek van."

TylaHunter

Posts: 8.802

De aerokit periode vond ik vreselijk van Indycar, maar daar zijn ze gelukkig van af.

Indycar is veel meer simpel. Vooral ook in straffen. Elimineer je iemand uit een race, dan krijg je straf. Kunnen beide coureurs door dan niet. Je moet het best wel bont maken een straf op te lopen... en er staa... [Lees verder]

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  • 19 okt 2021 - 10:16
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  • Clay Regazzoni

    Posts: 751

    Indycar is ook veel onvoorspelbaarder dan F1, en men zeikt minder als men elkaar eens van de baan af ramt!

    • + 2
    • 19 okt 2021 - 08:30
    • StevenQ

      Posts: 9.179

      Logisch als je allemaal met dezelfde auto rijd

      • + 1
      • 19 okt 2021 - 08:54
    • Snork

      Posts: 18.653

      Bijna dezelfde auto. Motorisch is er nog verschil.

      • + 0
      • 19 okt 2021 - 09:49
    • TylaHunter

      Posts: 8.802

      De aerokit periode vond ik vreselijk van Indycar, maar daar zijn ze gelukkig van af.

      Indycar is veel meer simpel. Vooral ook in straffen. Elimineer je iemand uit een race, dan krijg je straf. Kunnen beide coureurs door dan niet. Je moet het best wel bont maken een straf op te lopen... en er staan 27 autos op de baan.

      Bij F1 kijk ik inmiddels zwaar analyserend naar elke inhaalactie... laat hij wel genoeg ruimte aan de binnenkant, laat hij niet te veel ruimte... ooh jee ik zie een brokstuk vliegen... ojee daar is de boardradio al... ojee die oranje markers verschijnen... en ja hoor... 5 seconden omdat Lance Stroll t gedaan heeft... was het een Ferrari of een Mercedes geweest dan een reprimande...

      Het wordt zo moeilijk gemaakt F1 goed te volgen... dat Indycar leuker lijkt ondanks mindere autos en iets mindere coureurs.

      • + 6
      • 19 okt 2021 - 10:16
    • Ouw-sjagerijn

      Posts: 12.878

      Foei Tylahunter om er Lance bij te betrekken.

      • + 2
      • 19 okt 2021 - 11:02
    • snailer

      Posts: 21.071

      Ik vind vooral dat strategie een te grote rol speelt. Maar dat ben ik. Elk jaar probeer ik het maar haak ik af. Gewoon omdat het meestal saai rondjes rijden is tot de volgende stop.
      Geen aanval voor de indi liefhebbers hoor. Maar het is voor mij het zelfde als bij voetbal kijken. Na 5 minuten zit ik onbewust andere dingen te doen.

      Die onvoorspelbaarheid is juist wat ik niet goed vind. Het geeft aan dat de beste niet wint. Als matige rijders als Magnus kunnen winnen dan klopt er iets niet. Niet dat ik het hem persoonlijk niet gun. In tegendeel. Ik vind hem net als bijvoorbeeld Latifi enorm sympathiek en ik gun het hem dus wel. Gewoon om aan te geven wat ik er van vind.

      • + 2
      • 19 okt 2021 - 11:52
    • Snork

      Posts: 18.653

      Mijn probleem met Indycar is dat het niet inclusief is. Indy, verwijst direct naar de Indianen. Maar dan sluiten we Turken, Chinesen, Irakezen, Afrikanen en last but not least Hollanders uit. Ze zeggen namelijk wel dat VJ als Nederlander meerijdt, maar dat is dus gewoon een Indiaan met een helm op.
      Ja, ook in de reeserij zijn er complottheorieën. Maar deze is echt waar, echt.

      • + 3
      • 19 okt 2021 - 13:19
  • Metzeler

    Posts: 294

    Net wat zitten inlezen over d4 verschillen tussen deze 2 raceklassen maar dit verschil is wel interessant en zou dan ook mooi voor de F1 zijn;

    Misschien wel het grootste verschil tussen IndyCar en de Formule 1 zit ‘m in de downforce die de wagen genereert. Bij het ontwerp van de huidige generatie IndyCars is de focus gelegd op dat het grootste deel van de downforce wordt gegenereerd via de onderzijde van de wagen. Dit zodat er geen grote vleugels of allerlei extra vleugeltjes nodig zijn om extra downforce te genereren, wat voor meer vuile lucht achter een wagen zorgt en als gevolg heeft dat wagens minder dicht achter elkaar kunnen rijden. IndyCar wil zichzelf ook meer profileren als een rijdersklasse en des te minder downforce een wagen genereert, des te lastiger deze bestuurbaar is en het dus meer neerkomt op de kwaliteiten van een coureur.

    • + 2
    • 19 okt 2021 - 09:00
  • OrangeArrows

    Posts: 2.892

    F1 is technisch veel hoogstaander. Indycar is meer basic en wellicht wat puurder qua racen voor de coureurs. Alhoewel de F1 wel meer de kant op gaat van de indycar qua regels , beperkingen en standaardisatie.

    • + 1
    • 19 okt 2021 - 09:01
  • Evert van der Pick

    Posts: 5.966

    Erhmmm...🤔 Indycar rijdt toch allemaal met hetzelfde chassis en identieke aeroperformance?
    Dus alleen het torretje maakt het (minime) verschil.
    Dat is eerder cup racen!🤗
    Het is daarmee dus onmogelijk om Indycar met Formule1 te vergelijken.
    Enne...
    @Emerson Fittipaldi, Als de F1 je niet aanstaat dan blijf je hier maar weg!

    Zo...

    • + 1
    • 19 okt 2021 - 09:12
    • StevenQ

      Posts: 9.179

      En er zijn ook maar 2 verschillende motorleveranciers: Chevrolet en Honda

      dus ook daar zijn er minder van dan in de F1

      • + 0
      • 19 okt 2021 - 09:23
    • Metzeler

      Posts: 294

      Het torretje minimaal maar meer des te meer de coureur

      • + 1
      • 19 okt 2021 - 09:28
    • Snork

      Posts: 18.653

      Het is maar waar je naar wilt kijken. Ik denk dat bij Indycar de coureur meer bepalend is dan de auto. Maar dan kijk je dus wel naar een veld vol met auto's die nagenoeg indentiek zijn, met uitzondering van de motor.
      Ik vind persoonlijk de technische competitie van de F1 ook erg mooi. Totdat een team te dominant wordt met de auto.
      Helaas gaat de F1 volgend jaar wel een beetje richting de Indycar. Veel minder ruimte voor teams om nog wat eigen inbreng en ideeën in de auto te verwerken, het is allemaal veel strakker voorgeschreven en dichtgezet. Gelukkig moeten de teams alles nog wel zelf ontwerpen en bouwen. En dus gaan we komend jaar wederom verschillen zien in de F1. En dat is F1 en moet het ook blijven.

      • + 1
      • 19 okt 2021 - 09:53
    • James Raven

      Posts: 2.295

      @Snork: dat moeten we maar afwachten. Beperkingen brengen juist creativiteit. Maar we zien niet meer ontwikkelingen zoals in de jaren 70, nee.

      • + 0
      • 19 okt 2021 - 15:31
  • GetInThereLewis

    Posts: 961

    Ja en de rijders daar zijn zondag rijders als je ziet dat een grosjean meekan met de “grote” jongens daar niet dat hij slecht is maar zeker niet de top geweest van de F1.

    • + 0
    • 19 okt 2021 - 09:37
    • King-Creole

      Posts: 1.343

      geef lewis een HAAS en ook hij krijgt 2 rondes aan de broek

      • + 1
      • 19 okt 2021 - 11:35
    • GetInThereLewis

      Posts: 961

      Vergeten dat grosjean naar huis werd gereden door een raikonnen die er een tijdje uit was?

      • + 0
      • 19 okt 2021 - 12:25
    • StevenQ

      Posts: 9.179

      Inderdaad: Grosjean en Ericsson kunnen in de Indycar makkelijk meekomen

      • + 0
      • 19 okt 2021 - 12:45
    • James Raven

      Posts: 2.295

      Maar Grosjean was best snel. Af en toe had hij alleen wat kortsluiting bovenin.

      • + 1
      • 19 okt 2021 - 15:31
  • Arie54

    Posts: 4.960

    Ik vind het ook leuker om naar te kijken. Maar ja, 'mijn' team Ferrari rijdt nou eenmaal in de F1.

    • + 1
    • 19 okt 2021 - 09:39
  • schwantz34

    Posts: 36.095

    Wat ik ,buiten het close racing, heel vet vind aan de Indycars is het ontbreken van stuurbekrachtiging, waardoor je de coureurs veel meer ziet vechten met de auto.

    • + 2
    • 19 okt 2021 - 09:44
    • Snork

      Posts: 18.653

      Bij de F1 zie/hoor je de coureur via de board radio vechten met de race-engineer: "I told you so!"

      :-)

      • + 3
      • 19 okt 2021 - 09:54
  • Bertrand Gachot

    Posts: 297

    Wat mij is opgevallen als trouwe indycar, champscar, cart, irl, indycar volger. Waarbij ik vanaf de jaren 80 meer dan 30 races live heb bijgewoond (gedurende mijn "Amerikaanse jaren") is dat de laatste jaren zeker niveau van de teams enorm achteruit is gegaan. Voor een paar miljoen koop je je als team in echter dit zorgt niet voor homogene en professionele teams. Kijk eens naar hoe de pitstops van het team van Grosjean verliepen bij Dale Coyne Racing, iedere keer 5 - 6 plaatsen verliezen na steeds een pitstop. Logisch vergelijk bv de pitstopcrew van bv Andretti "fitte 30érs" en bij DCR monteurs die een overalletje maatje 6xxxxxxxxXL dragen.

    • + 2
    • 19 okt 2021 - 12:05
    • Clay Regazzoni

      Posts: 751

      Goed verwoord, ik houdt ook elke keer mijn hart vast als ECR een pitstop maakt bij Rinus. Heeft hem ook al heel veel plekken gekost dit seizoen. Leuk dat je al zolang deze klasse volgt. Zelf ben ik begonnen het te volgen in 1993.

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      • 19 okt 2021 - 13:54

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