Pirelli reageert op kritiek van coureurs: "Ze moeten hun rijstijl aanpassen"

  • Gepubliceerd op 21 jun 2023 10:09
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  • Door: Bob Plaizier

Bandenleverancier Pirelli wil volgend jaar nieuwe compounds introduceren in de Formule 1. Het is de bedoeling dat bij deze nieuwe banden geen bandenwarmers meer nodig zijn. Veel coureurs zijn nogal kritisch op dat plan, maar bij Pirelli vindt men dat onzin. De bandenleverancier geeft aan dat de coureurs hun rijstijl moeten aanpassen.

Onder meer Mercedes-coureur en GPDA-kopstuk George Russell was kritisch op de plannen van Pirelli. Russell stelde dat hij bezorgd was en dat de banden misschien nog niet geschikt zijn voor een racescenario. Zijn teamgenoot Lewis Hamilton was ook zeer kritisch en gaf aan dat het een gevaarlijke stap kan zijn. Veel coureurs vrezen dan ook voor crashes door koude banden, zoals recent ook in het WEC gebeurde.

Bij Pirelli heeft men echter een andere mening. Ze horen en lezen de kritiek, maar delen deze woorden niet. Pirelli-engineer Simone Berra legt het uit bij de internationale media: "Als we kijken naar de veiligheid, dan zie ik in onze gegevens geen risico. Je moet wel je rijstijl in de eerste ronde aanpassen. Coureurs zullen hun rijstijl moeten aanpassen, ook om de band te beschermen. Je kunt slijtage generen als je teveel pusht als de banden niet op temperatuur zijn. Ik respecteer de mening van de coureurs, maar ik denk dat verschillen zijn zijn vergeleken met de oude producten van ons."

GILH

Posts: 1.320

Maar is Pirelli nu de factor die gaat bepalen hoe er geracet moet worden?
Als ik lees dat de banden eraan gaan als er teveel gepusht wordt, dan krijg ik het gevoel dat we seizoenen lang kijken naar races waar coureurs niet de gaten dicht willen rijden omdat “de banden dat niet aan kunnen”.

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  • 21 jun 2023 - 10:54

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  • Helemaal mee eens.... maar waarom dan al dat getest van banden?
    Maak gewoon 1 soort banden voor droog weer en hou op met dat kunstmatige gejongleer met 5 soorten , die geen van allen gewoon een race meegaan.
    Dan is het voor elke coureur duidelijk en hoor je nooit meer iemand erover.

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    • 21 jun 2023 - 10:31
    • GILH

      Posts: 1.320

      Maar is Pirelli nu de factor die gaat bepalen hoe er geracet moet worden?
      Als ik lees dat de banden eraan gaan als er teveel gepusht wordt, dan krijg ik het gevoel dat we seizoenen lang kijken naar races waar coureurs niet de gaten dicht willen rijden omdat “de banden dat niet aan kunnen”.

      Ik vind dat de banden fabrikanten in dienst moeten zijn van de teams en de coureurs en spannende races. Niet dat de banden fabrikanten bepalen hoe coureurs en hun teams de auto’s moeten maken, racen om de banden heel te houden.

      • + 11
      • 21 jun 2023 - 10:54
    • Als ik dit goed lees betekend dit dat als ze dan toch bandenwarmers gebruiken de 1e ronde wel snel kan. Dat is vragen om gesjoemel. De banden in de zon laten liggen kan dan al een voordeel opleveren. Beetje rare stelling van Pirelli.

      • + 0
      • 21 jun 2023 - 12:58
    • Gilh. De Pirelli maakt de banden die de Fia wil. Pirelli kan echt wel de band maken die jij beschrijft.

      • + 2
      • 21 jun 2023 - 14:11
    • Uiteindelijk maakt het niet uit die banden. Er wordt altijd geracet zo hard als nodig is. Als men geen limiet heeft op de banden dan lopen ze tegen een andere op. Bijvoorbeeld brandstof sparen of de remmen.

      • + 0
      • 21 jun 2023 - 16:46
    • Ow... En de temperatuur van de banden worden constant gemeten. In de zon werkt dus niet. Geldt ook voor de druk van de banden. Elke bewering dat een team vals speelt met de druk is onzin aangezien ook de druk constant wordt gemeten in de garage.

      • + 0
      • 21 jun 2023 - 16:48
    • NicoS

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      @GILH,
      Dat staat er niet, er staat: “Je kunt slijtage generen als je teveel pusht als de banden niet op temperatuur zijn.”
      Ze geven dus aan dat je de eerste ronde eerst moet zorgen dat de banden op temperatuur komen, voordat je kunt pushen, maar feitelijk is dat nu ook al zo.

      • + 1
      • 21 jun 2023 - 17:38
    • GILH

      Posts: 1.320

      Je hebt gelijk Nico. Had er te snel overheen gelezen.

      Ben toch benieuwd wat als ze in die eerste ronde het niet voor elkaar krijgen om de juiste window te vinden.

      • + 0
      • 21 jun 2023 - 19:28
    • De coureurs kunnen binnenkort ook gewoon voor Bridgestone kiezen, dus wat is het probleem? 😆

      • + 1
      • 21 jun 2023 - 20:27
    • AUDI_F1

      Posts: 2.497

      Dan zouden ze de pitstraat met en SC en VSC ook moeten sluiten. Want dat geeft ook een flink voordeel.

      • + 0
      • 21 jun 2023 - 22:35
  • XaoRalas

    Posts: 774

    Wat aangepast moet worden is het exclusieve contract met Pirelli. Maar dan rent Pirelli hard weg.

    Geen bandenwarmers betekent dus weer een stukje versimpeling en dus lager niveau in termen van engineering rond F1. En het veiligheidsaspect klopt gewoon. Het blijven race-coureurs dus ze zullen risico's nemen. Maar je wil toch dat ze zo snel mogelijk het beste laten zien wat racen te bieden heeft? Als ze in eerste instantie overdreven voorzichtig moeten doen... Wat is het volgende? Een rollende start?

    • + 5
    • 21 jun 2023 - 10:58
    • Plus dat de undercut minder krachtig is. De strategen krijgen het zwaarder.

      • + 0
      • 21 jun 2023 - 17:01
    • NicoS

      Posts: 16.770

      Geen enkele raceklasse gebruikt bandenwarmers, dus waarom zou dat in de F1 ook niet kunnen?
      Het zijn tocht de beste coureurs ter wereld? Ja, ze zullen er rekening mee moeten houden dat de eerste ronde er nog geen maximale grip is. Dat is voor iedereen gelijk.

      • + 3
      • 21 jun 2023 - 17:42
    • @nico Omdat die klassen niet zo high tech zijn als F1.

      • + 2
      • 22 jun 2023 - 08:14
  • 919

    Posts: 2.372

    Moet lukken in 2,5 seconden om een sticker op het stuur te plakken

    'Waarschuwing, uw voertuig is uitgerust met nieuwe banden, uw nieuwe banden kunnen glad zijn, gedurende 25 kilometer niet vol belasten. Hier niet aan voldoen zal resulteren in verminderde werking en verhoogde slijtage'

    • + 3
    • 21 jun 2023 - 11:38
  • Snork

    Posts: 18.653

    Het is voor alle coureurs hetzelfde. Dus wat is het probleem? Bij verandering staat iedereen op z’n achterste poten. Was het andersom, dan was de introductie van bandenwarmers je reinste competitievervalsing.
    Coureurs weten dat ze op versleten banden voorzichtig moeten zijn, dat geldt dadelijk ook als ze net nieuw rubber hebben gehaald. Slimme coureurs weten hier prima mee om te gaan en slimme teams gaan het moment van wisselen ook strategisch anders bekijken.

    • + 4
    • 21 jun 2023 - 12:29
    • NicoS

      Posts: 16.770

      Geheel mee eens.

      • + 0
      • 21 jun 2023 - 17:43
  • Pirelli is Italiaans hè... Ach ja 😩

    • + 0
    • 21 jun 2023 - 13:19
  • Dan gaan we na iedere banden wissel piloten zien die 3 rondes lang niet kunnen pushen en worden ingehaald door de middenmoot om nog sneller de bande aan gort te rijden. om zo nodig een extra stop te maken
    Zeer bevorderlijk voor de spanning

    • + 2
    • 21 jun 2023 - 13:22
  • AirJan

    Posts: 1.369

    Ik ben vooral benieuwd hoe ze dat dan in de kwalificatie gaan doen waar ze nu vaak maar een inlap, snelle ronde en outlap rijden... Zullen er dan straks eerst 4 ronden nodig zijn om de banden op temperatuur te krijgen?

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    • 22 jun 2023 - 09:56

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