Visa Cash App RB ziet grote nadelen aan samenwerking met Red Bull

  • Gepubliceerd op 11 feb 2024 09:08
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  • Door: Bob Plaizier

Het team van Visa Cash App RB (VCARB) werkt vanaf dit jaar weer nauwer samen met zusterteam Red Bull Racing. De Italiaanse renstal gaat een aantal onderdelen van Red Bull gebruiken en ze barsten van de ambities. Volgens Laurent Mekies heeft deze hernieuwde samenwerking ook een groot nadeel.

VCARB en Red Bull Racing hebben dezelfde eigenaar. Beide renstallen zijn eigendom van het Red Bull-concern en vanaf dit jaar wordt er beter samengewerkt. De banden worden aangetrokken en VCARB gaat gebruik maken van de versnellingsbak, de voor- en achterwielophanging van Red Bull. Het is onderdeel van een grote metamorfose, want VCARB heeft in de afgelopen winter een nieuwe naam gekregen en ze hebben veel nieuwe sponsors aangetrokken.

Delen

Ook op bestuurlijk vlak is er veel veranderd. Franz Tost is gestopt en sinds deze winter is Laurent Mekies de nieuwe teambaas. Mekies legde aan F1.com uit wat de voordelen zijn van de samenwerking met Red Bull: "We zitten in een situatie waarin we één eigenaar van twee teams hebben, en natuurlijk wordt ons dan gevraagd wat we kunnen delen. We moeten wel delen. We kijken naar de regels en we delen wat we kunnen. Aan de kant die we zelf in handen hebben, dat is het grootste deel van de auto, doen we ons uiterste best om te kunnen vechten voor grotere prijzen."

Nadelen

Maar volgens Mekies is niet alles rozengeur en maneschijn. De kersvers teambaas stelt namelijk dat er ook nadelen zijn van deze nieuwe samenwerking: "Als je de versnellingsbak van een ander team neemt, wat veel teams doen, dan moet je wachten tot het team dat de versnellingsbak heeft ontworpen om te begrijpen waar je ophangingspunten komen te liggen. Welke invloed heeft het op je beslissingen voor de aerodynamica? Er zijn dan compromissen."

Lijkt me ook een nadeel al die spullen te gebruiken van de meest snelle F1 auto van afgelopen seizoen....lol

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  • 11 feb 2024 - 09:20

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  • Lijkt me ook een nadeel al die spullen te gebruiken van de meest snelle F1 auto van afgelopen seizoen....lol

    • + 9
    • 11 feb 2024 - 09:20
  • Hemex

    Posts: 1.270

    Dit lijkt me een punt van ondergeschikt belang. Ook het team waar je de versnellingsbak van betrekt, wil graag zo snel mogelijk weten hoe die versnellingsbak eruit komt te zien. Zij willen immers ook de ophangingspunten weten. Zodra dat team het weet, zou ook het afnemende team het moeten kunnen weten. Dit zou alleen een valide punt zijn als de ontwerptrajecten van beide teams ver uiteen liggen in de tijd. Zou dat echt zo zijn? Lijkt me vrij onwaarschijnlijk. Ik zou verwachten dat Red Bull die versnellingsbak al maanden eerder klaar heeft dan Visa Cash App RB (VCARB) de ophangpunten moet weten.

    • + 4
    • 11 feb 2024 - 09:24
    • Het kan ook zijn dat dat team juist de punten bepaald en days afgestemd zijn op die auto. En datkan dus zomaar een ander filosofie zijn. Maar bij beide RB teams zou dit prima afgestemd moeten kunnen zijn

      • + 0
      • 11 feb 2024 - 13:36
    • Hemex

      Posts: 1.270

      Als dat andere team de ophangpunten bepaalt, dan zullen ze dat al vroegtijdig gedaan hebben toch? Ze moeten het zelf ook op tijd weten weten, dus kunnen ze dat ook vroegtijdig doorgeven. Ik kan me geen situatie voorstellen dat STR dat pas te horen krijgt als de versnellingsbak al kant en klaar bij hun wordt afgeleverd.

      • + 1
      • 11 feb 2024 - 14:11
    • Klopt, maar de filosofie van je auto begint eerder dan de ophanging van je versnellingsbak

      • + 0
      • 11 feb 2024 - 16:39
  • Ik denk dat ie daar wel een heel goed punt heeft, alle onderdelen werken samen met elkaar. Je kan ook niet zomaar even de voorvleugel van de snelste auto pakken en denken dat hij op jouw auto ook goed gaat werken.

    • + 2
    • 11 feb 2024 - 09:35
    • Zo'n voorvleugel kun je wel mooi testen tijdens die vermaledijde sprintraces, die gaan toch nergens over...

      • + 4
      • 11 feb 2024 - 11:46
    • Wellus

      • + 0
      • 11 feb 2024 - 12:37
    • Niet wellus maar niettus...

      • + 3
      • 11 feb 2024 - 15:49
    • Binnen 3 jaar ben jij ook groot fan van de sprintraces, je moet het wat tijd geven.

      • + 0
      • 11 feb 2024 - 17:07
    • Ja, eens, want dan zijn ze afgeschaft...

      • + 3
      • 11 feb 2024 - 20:21
  • mishendr

    Posts: 160

    Ongelofelijk, wat een schijt team-naam… al vaak gezegd, maar het is toch echt wel een “new-low”…. Sorry, moest het ff kwijt.

    • + 4
    • 11 feb 2024 - 10:27
    • Geen sorry nodig hoor, berichten worden hier ook vaak herhaald....

      Geen sorry nodig hoor, berichten worden hier ook vaak herhaald....

      • + 5
      • 11 feb 2024 - 11:19
    • En dan heb je het nog niet eens over de berichten die hier vaak herhaald worden.

      • + 1
      • 11 feb 2024 - 11:29
    • Zolangsamerhand ga je je toch afvragen wat een visa cash app nu eigenlijk is ??

      • + 0
      • 11 feb 2024 - 11:34
    • @Harry, visa cash app bestaat niet. Visa bestaat en Cash App bestaat.
      Zou je "Zolangsamerhand" wel moeten weten. ;-)

      • + 3
      • 11 feb 2024 - 11:46
    • Nu weet ik het nog niet.......

      • + 0
      • 11 feb 2024 - 13:20
    • Ik weet het wel @Harry maar ga het je niet vertellen, want zodra jij het weet ga je zeggen dat het je niet boeit...

      • + 1
      • 11 feb 2024 - 15:32
  • Het lezen van die naam brand aan mijn ogen

    • + 0
    • 11 feb 2024 - 11:46
    • P. Huill

      Posts: 32

      Pas dan maar op dat je niet smelt.

      • + 0
      • 11 feb 2024 - 11:59
  • Krijgen we dat weer, is ook nooit goed!

    • + 0
    • 11 feb 2024 - 12:06
  • Daniel Ricciardo over zijn team en het zitje van Perez:

    "Ik kijk niet zo ver vooruit. Ik kijk er naar, maar ook weer niet, want ik moet me op andere dingen focussen. In mijn jaren bij McLaren liep ik ook niet zo ver op de zaken vooruit, want we hebben gezien dat het allemaal heel snel kan veranderen, dus ik wil in deze sport niet meer te veel op de zaken vooruit lopen."

    "Na mijn terugkeer in de sport snap ik waar ervaring voor kan zorgen. Natuurlijk staan de rondetijden en de prestaties voorop, maar zeker in een team dat we aan het opbouwen zijn, is ervaring waardevol en mogelijk een doorslaggevend onderdeel."

    "Als mijn team voor bepaalde dingen op mij en mijn informatie kan leunen, dan voelt dat goed. Dan voelt dat alsof we echt aan het samenwerken zijn. Dat is een goed gevoel. Het komende seizoen ga ik dus proberen om snel te zijn, maar ik ga ook mijn ervaring in proberen te zetten waar mogelijk", aldus de Australiër.

    • + 0
    • 11 feb 2024 - 12:09
    • Kortom, als dit seizoen zijn prestaties tegenvallen is dat niet erg omdat fijn samenwerken en zijn ervaring delen het hogere doel is.

      Zodra Helmut dat te horen krijgt belt hij Ricciardo 's ochtends vroeg wakker en roept hij: "nou meteen op kantoor komen, flapdrol..."

      • + 0
      • 11 feb 2024 - 15:42
  • Elk nadeel heb z'n voordeel voordeel heb ik weleens voorbij horen komen, dus hou groter het nadeel, des te groter......

    • + 0
    • 11 feb 2024 - 12:16
    • De neus?

      Ow nu haal ik vast dingen door elkaar.

      • + 1
      • 11 feb 2024 - 13:47
  • VCarb dat klinkt als een veganistische maaltijd.

    • + 0
    • 11 feb 2024 - 14:21
    • Straks komt Rinus van Kalmthout toch nog naar de F1 en krijg je VeeKay in een VCARB...

      • + 0
      • 11 feb 2024 - 15:47
  • Samenwerking ??? Ze zijn onderdeel van Red Bull. Dat is alleen maar een voordeel, niks meer of minder.
    En als ze het een nadeel vinden om de onderdelen te leren begrijpen, dan moeten ze die zelf maar maken.

    Ze zijn niks verplicht.

    • + 0
    • 11 feb 2024 - 16:02
  • Dan gaan ze toch alles lekker zelf ontwikkelen. Zien we ze over een paar jaar wel...

    • + 0
    • 11 feb 2024 - 16:39

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