Red Bull Racing niet overtuigd van voordeel remstabilisatiesysteem

  • Gepubliceerd op 20 jan 2012 11:33
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra
Het team van Red Bull Racing gaat niet in alle haast een eigen versie van het remstabilisatiesysteem van Lotus Renault GP ontwikkelen. Concurrenten Ferrari en Mercedes zijn wel bezig met een eigen variant, maar de regerend kampioen trekt zijn eigen plan en concentreert zich op het geheel.

Teambaas Christian Horner deelde aan Autosport mede: “Het is zoals met al dit soort dingen, het draait om hoe ze werken en hoe ze geïntegreerd zijn in de auto. Dat dient als een pakket te werken in plaats van als individuele componenten. Het lijkt een interessant concept, maar ik ben misschien de verkeerde persoon om daarover uit te wijden.”

Over de voorbereidingen met de RB8 zegt hij: “Deze tijd van het jaar is altijd erg druk. Iedereen werkt volgas, maar ons schema en de planning ogen in orde. De uitdaging dit jaar is dat je eerst aan de crashtests moet voldoen voordat je mag testen, maar die vlieger gaat voor iedereen op. We focussen ons op onszelf, en wat de rest heeft gedaan zien we wel bij de tests.”

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  • klompie

    Posts: 236

    Kan bijna niet wachten op volgende week.Laat die team presentaties maar beginnen. Ook erg veel zin in 7 Februari maar zullen wel meer fans last van hebben :P

    • + 0
    • 20 jan 2012 - 11:37
    • szixxx

      Posts: 4.764

      Kan idd niet wachten!!

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      • 20 jan 2012 - 12:23
    • @szixxx

      Het is gebleken dat de wintertests wel iets zeiden maar ook vaak genoeg dat ze zeer weinig zeiden. Dus je kunt sowieso geen conclussies trekken. Dat kun je pas na de eerste GP van Australië.

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      • 20 jan 2012 - 15:01
    • Was voor hieronder bedoeld...

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      • 20 jan 2012 - 15:02
  • James

    Posts: 1.653

    Allemaal erg relatief, zo leek Ferrari sterk tijdens de wintertests van vorig seizoen, maar in Australië Q3 kwamen ze wel 1,5 en 2 seconden tekort voor pole position.

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    • 20 jan 2012 - 12:45
    • Precies, het zegt nog amper wat die wintertests. Wel leuk om die nieuwe wagens voor het eerst op het circuit te zien rijden, maar over de verhoudingen zijn er weinig conclussies te trekken.

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      • 20 jan 2012 - 13:09
    • szixxx

      Posts: 4.764

      Tsja de wintertests zeggen wel degelijk iets. Het is alleen dat wij de verschillende variabelen niet weten en wat de team op dat moment testen. In 2009 was de Brawn GP wagen in de laatste test meteen snel en dat bleek de eerste race niet anders :-)

      • + 0
      • 20 jan 2012 - 13:52
  • Ben benieuwd, wie weet slaat RBR hiermee de plank mis. En zorgt dat voor een groter verschil dan dat ze denken.

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    • 20 jan 2012 - 13:11
    • Houwimmie

      Posts: 549

      Dat klopt maar ik kan me nauwelijks voorstellen dat zij dit volledig aan hun neus laten voorbij gaan. Zij zullen zeker ook al testen gedaan hebben in hun fabriek. Wat Horner zegt is dat het op RB8 niet zal werken. Op de Lotus zou het best wel eens een grote sprong voorwaards kunnen zijn.

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      • 20 jan 2012 - 13:27
    • szixxx

      Posts: 4.764

      Misschien wel maar misschien hebben zij al iets anders bedacht waardoor het voor hen niet werkt.

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      • 20 jan 2012 - 13:53
    • Inderdaad, Ik ben trouwens ook benieuwd of McLaren er mee bezig is. Je hoort bijna niks over de ontwikkelingen van de MP4-27 in het algemeen. Ze houden hun lippen goed op elkaar. Het enige gerucht was dat ze extremere sidepods gingen ontwikkelen maar dat is alweer lang geleden.

      • + 0
      • 20 jan 2012 - 15:26
    • En zo hoort het ook L.Hamilton. Juist degene die van de daken schreeuwen dat ze het goed gaan doen, zijn degene die gigantisch op hun bek gaan. Uitgaande van deze aanname kun je dus stellen dat Ferrari, wederom tegen de achterkant van de Red Bull en McLaren zal kijken.

      • + 0
      • 20 jan 2012 - 16:20
  • Ik ben ook nog niet overtuigd van het voordeel van het remstabilisatiesysteem....

    • + 0
    • 20 jan 2012 - 13:48
  • Gompie

    Posts: 4.951

    Zou mij niets verbazen als RBR al een of andere verrassing in petto heeft. Maar goed, als Ferraristi hoop ik van harte dat het een knalrood jaar gaat worden met heel vaak dat stomvervelende Italiaanse volkslied :)

    • + 0
    • 20 jan 2012 - 15:25
  • Sja dit bericht is niet geheel serieus te nemen, het word gevraagd aan Christian Horner, en die zegt zelf al dat hij niet de juiste man is om hierover te oordelen.. Tuurlijk heeft Horner al wel met ontwerpers erover gesproken aangezien het een niet te ontwijken nieuwtje is

    Als Redbull dit systeem niet gaat gebruiken, dan vertrouw ik Redbull daar 100% in, en anders hoop ik dat Lotus er zo enorm voordeel mee heeft, dat Rai....... *stopt met dromen*

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    • 20 jan 2012 - 16:56
  • DRF

    Posts: 1.315

    En dit is nou precies zo iets waar Ferrari zich vorig seizoen op verkeken. In alle haast werd een EBD op die auto geplakt. Uiteindelijk waren ze zo gefocust op dat ding dat de rest van de auto in vergetelheid raakte. Typisch geval van blindstaren op een onderdeel en niet het geheel.
    Misschien is dat wel het allersterkste punt van RedBull/Newey. Een auto, als project zien, niet een puzzel waar je elke keer een stukje aan kan leggen. Mooiste voorbeeld is 2009. De RB5, briljant in z\'n elegantie was als een van de weinigen zonder DDD bijna suprieur, het concept stond. Daar waar McLaren en Ferrari een half seizoen nodig hadden om het werkend te krijgen bleven ze bij RedBull bij hun originele concept. Met resultaat.
    Het baart me zorgen dat een team als Ferrari dit jaar wederom halsoverkop het gevoel heeft iets te moeten toevoegen wat ze niet in hun originele ontwerp hebben meegenomen en waar ze nog niet lang mee bezig zijn. Dan krijg je weer van die experimentele races zoals dit jaar.
    En dat hele systeem is a big load of bullsh*t. Stabiliteit onder remmen en aanverwante zaken zijn belangrijk zeker als het ook invloed heeft op aerodynamica maar nog geen halve nanoprocent zo belangrijk als een goed uitgedacht concept. Daar zit hem de werkelijke kracht van RedBull, niet één onderdeel dat je even kunt kopieren zoals de DDD van Brawn. Nee het geheel is velen malen groter dan de som der delen, iets wat de andere teams nog niet volledig schijnen te snappen.

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    • 20 jan 2012 - 20:40
    • Amaai!

      Posts: 305

      @ DRF mooi samengevat. Doch ik denk dat dit alles de periode \'elkaar zand in de ogen strooien\' dient, om de concurrenten zeg maar, wat op het verkeerde pad te sturen. De slimsten zijn meestal zij die bij hun basisidee blijven en hun concept het best uitwerken, die onnozele nano-seconde die men zo verliest, wint men terug door nada-secondes te verliezen door hun efficiëntie zou hoog mogelijk te houden op alle vlakken. Eén goed of slecht idee kan makkelijk de balans uit je ontwerp halen en het volledig seizoen voor je verknallen! Waar blijft die champagne?

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      • 21 jan 2012 - 02:11
  • James

    Posts: 1.653

    Systeem is geband door FIA.

    • + 0
    • 20 jan 2012 - 22:10
    • Dat las ik net ook inderdaad. Beetje vreemd om het eerst goed te keuren en nu weer op hun mening terug komen. Jammer, had Lotus dat voordeel wel gegund met Raikkonen

      • + 0
      • 20 jan 2012 - 23:18
    • Oh damn, say what? Waar staat dat dan? Heb het (nog) niet kunnen vinden...?

      Eerst goedkeuren en daarna afkeuren? Welkom in de wondere wereld van de FIA

      • + 0
      • 21 jan 2012 - 04:29
    • Las het gister al op de twitter van Mark Gillan van Williams. Kwam daar terecht via een engelstalig forum. Wou het eerst niet geloven, maar blijkt dus toch waar te zijn

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      • 21 jan 2012 - 15:15

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