Marko verklaart problemen: "Hij had gewoon te weinig downforce"

  • Gepubliceerd op 08 apr 2022 10:09
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  • Door: Bob Plaizier

Het lijkt erop dat men ook dit weekend weer een duel tussen de teams van Red Bull Racing en Ferrari kan verwachten. De twee renstallen ontliepen elkaar al nauwelijks tijdens de eerste twee races van het seizoen. Ook in Australië zijn de teams weer aan elkaar gewaagd tijdens de trainingen. 

In zowel de eerste als de tweede training was Ferrari de bovenliggende ploeg. De wagens van Carlos Sainz en Charles Leclerc oogden snel maar wel hadden ze flink wat last van porpoising. Red Bull-kopman Max Verstappen had op zijn beurt wat last van problemen met de balans. Hij was dan ook nogal geïrriteerd over de boordradio tijdens de tweede training.

Derde sector

Red Bull-adviseur Helmut Marko had enkele duidelijke verschillen gezien tussen zijn ploeg en de Italiaanse concurrentie. De Oostenrijker sprak zich uit in gesprek met zijn landgenoten van ORF: "We moeten afwachten hoe het circuit zich ontwikkelt. We verliezen momenteel teveel tijd op Ferrari in de derde sector. Sainz was in die sector tijdens de eerst training wel acht tienden sneller dan Max."

Downforce

Marko weet in ieder geval waardoor de problemen van Verstappen kwamen. De Oostenrijker is niet te beroerd om deze info te delen met de buitenwereld: "Max had gewoon te weinig downforce, dat was het probleem. Wij moeten nu gaan beslissen of wij gaan kiezen voor minder topsnelheid, meer downforce of dat we het gewoon zo gaan houden."

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  • Rimmer

    Posts: 11.467

    Balans is nog niet optimaal maar als Max ronde na ronde kan doorrijden op die oude rode band en ondanks uitstapjes en verremmen steeds snellere tijden rijdt dan is die 2 tiende naar Lec niet zo spannend.
    We weten dat ze bij RB vannacht wel weer wat vinden en dat op vrijdag alleen maar bezig zijn met de race set up.
    Het gaat dus weer spannend worden zondag.

    • + 2
    • 8 apr 2022 - 10:14
    • En een lange dag vanwege het vroeg opstaan

      • + 0
      • 8 apr 2022 - 10:23
    • Ik zou kiezen voor een hogere topspeed, dat lijkt de enige kans om Ferrari momenteel te verslaan. dus een beetje stuivertje wisselen en dan maar hopen dat je aan het einde kan aanvallen, dast deden ze verleden race ook, en de week ervoor ook.In de bochten ga je het momenteel niet winnen, dus dan maar voor de rechte stukken gaan.

      • + 0
      • 8 apr 2022 - 10:23
    • Te vroeg zelfs om er een biertje bij te pakken

      • + 0
      • 8 apr 2022 - 10:23
    • Ach skibeest, dan stoppen we maar wat eerder. :p

      • + 0
      • 8 apr 2022 - 10:26
    • Helaas, moet na de race bij zoonlief aan de slag om een laminaatvloer te leggen. Moet dus zelf rijden en dan is het niet verstandig om al zo vroeg te beginnen.

      In vroegere (studenten) tijden zou ik overigens zeggen dat de race wat laat begint en ik dus op tijd uit de stad terug moet zijn

      • + 3
      • 8 apr 2022 - 10:38
    • Snork

      Posts: 18.653

      Kom kom, ik land dadelijk in Melbourne en sta morgen "rise and shine" om 8am lokale tijd aan het ontbijt om daarna naar het circuit te gaan voor VT3 en kwalificatie. Vroeg of laat, het is allemaal relatief ;-)

      • + 1
      • 8 apr 2022 - 10:49
    • Joeppp

      Posts: 7.329

      Ik zou kiezen voor de beste kwalificatie setup. Er is hier amper in te halen ondanks de drs zones.

      • + 0
      • 8 apr 2022 - 10:50
    • @Snork, geen last van jetlag? Hoe doe je dat?
      Als jij daar om 08:00 am aan het ontbijt zit is het voor jou eigenlijk tijd
      om te gaan slapen (+/- 23:30u onze tijd).

      • + 0
      • 8 apr 2022 - 10:59
    • ringo

      Posts: 3.629

      met twee detectie punten en 4 DRS punten is goed balanceren tussen meer downforce of minder. heeft geen nut als leclerc elke aanval kan verdedigen

      • + 0
      • 8 apr 2022 - 11:00
    • Snork

      Posts: 18.653

      Pietje Bell, ik was voor zaken in Dubai, dan heb je de eerste 2 uur al te pakken. Vanaf daar nog een keer 6 uur erbij naar Melbourne. Wat ik altijd doe is direct na aan boord gaan horloge, telefoon en laptop op tijdstip van bestemming zetten. Ik ben vervolgens gaan slapen en ben Australische tijd 11am weer opgestaan. Ik dwing mij tijdens de vlucht dus al in het tijdschema van bestemming. Ik kom daar over drie uur aan, is daar dan 22:30u. Uber pakken naar hotel en daar het bed in en proberen te slapen. Door korte nacht die ik net heb gehad moet dat wel lukken.
      Als de wekker morgen gaat ben ik echt wel effe gaar, maar een douche en een kop koffie verder is het al snel beter. Hoop ik ;-)

      • + 4
      • 8 apr 2022 - 11:12
    • MWHT

      Posts: 4.007

      leuk Snork, heel veel plezier gewenst!

      • + 2
      • 8 apr 2022 - 11:34
    • Ah, bedankt @Snork. Ik zag de coureurs de afgelopen dagen midden in de nacht Australische tijd met elkaar communiceren via IG, dus die konden na een paar nachten daar nog niet in slaap komen, dus in het nieuwe ritme komen. Vandaar dat ik jouw methode graag wou weten.
      Heel veel plezier daar!

      • + 1
      • 8 apr 2022 - 11:39
    • Snork

      Posts: 18.653

      Bedankt MWHT en Pietje Bell.

      • + 1
      • 8 apr 2022 - 12:00
    • Snork@ Mooi man, succes daar Enjoy!

      • + 0
      • 8 apr 2022 - 12:29
    • Mijn ervaring met naar australie reizen is dat ik na de heenweg amper last heb van een jetlag. De terugweg daarintegen.. vreselijk!

      • + 0
      • 8 apr 2022 - 12:32
  • FP2 Topspeed ...
    1 ALO 321
    2 PER 321
    3 VER 321
    4 OCO 319
    5 TSU 315
    6 GAS 315
    7 LAT 315
    8 RUS 315
    9 BOT 314
    10 SCH 314
    11 ALB 314
    12 STR 314
    13 MAG 314
    14 HAM 313
    15 NOR 313
    16 SAI 312
    17 RIC 312
    18 ZHO 311
    19 LEC 311

    • + 1
    • 8 apr 2022 - 10:37
    • Dat zijn wel behoorlijke verschillen en maakt verdedigen tegen DRS wat makkelijker. Aanvallen daarentegen zal wat makkelijker gaan. Zaak is dan wel niet al te veel te verliezen in de bochten

      • + 0
      • 8 apr 2022 - 10:40
    • De Honda is een hele agressieve motor met veel kracht. De Ferrari is soepeler en accelereert sneller. De RB is "normaal" geschakeld, de Ferrari kort. Ook de DRS helpt de RB meer dan het de Ferrari helpt. Met 4 DRS zones en evenveel stukken van boven de 300km/Hr heeft de RB hier een markant voordeel zowel in Q als in R.

      • + 2
      • 8 apr 2022 - 10:45
    • Maximo

      Posts: 8.733

      We kunnen wel van alles vinden van wat voor set-up de juiste is, maar ik denk dat ze bij zowel Ferrari als RB hun wagen het beste kennen en ook welke set-up het beste bij hen past.

      • + 0
      • 8 apr 2022 - 12:11
    • SennaS

      Posts: 6.005

      Mr_flex,
      Dat is het hele seizoen al het geval. Wellicht kan fer meer fine tunen voor snelheid op de rechte stukken anders zijn ze weer sitting duck.
      Het zal op lec en/sai komen om die rbr te pareren.

      • + 0
      • 8 apr 2022 - 23:14
    • SennaS

      Posts: 6.005

      Ps. Fer kampt nog met behoorlijke porpoising op de rechte stukken, wat nadelig werkt voor top senlheden

      • + 0
      • 8 apr 2022 - 23:15
    • @SennaS
      De Ferrari zie ik een andere versnellingsbak nemen net na Monaco.
      Ieder team mag 1x per jaar zijn versnellingsbakverhoudingen aanpassen.
      Hier geen evidente zaak van de circuits tot dan.
      Het tuimelen zal maar van korte duur zijn want zoals we eerder zagen, zij kennen de oplossing. Tuimelden in de vrije training bijna altijd maar dan niet in Q en R. Andere teams houden dat ongetwijfeld scherp in de gaten....

      • + 0
      • 9 apr 2022 - 01:12
  • de ferrari's is gewoon beter in de bochten en nu ze hun motor hebben opgeschroefd hoeven ze op de rechte stukken ook niet meer toe te geven op redbull. maak niet uit wat redbull doet, als ze meer downforce erin gooit zijn ze sneller in de bochten maar verliezen ze op de rechte stukken weer topsnelheid.

    • + 1
    • 8 apr 2022 - 10:39
    • Bovendien hebben ze hun compressor ratio van de inwendige verbrandingskamers ook op quantum+2 ingesteld meende ik te zien op hun stuurtje...

      • + 0
      • 8 apr 2022 - 11:28
    • SennaS

      Posts: 6.005

      Schijnt dat de fer porpoising het verschil maakt tussen rbr en fer op de snelle stukken

      • + 0
      • 8 apr 2022 - 23:17
  • Rbr moet gaan spelen met de achtervleugel. De motor is kwa kracht prima en liggen 10km p/u voor op Ferrari. Je zou dan de achtervleugel aanpassen dat je meer downforce krijgt. Ze moeten de downforce problemen wel oplossen want anders zijn ze in Monaco de bok.

    • + 0
    • 8 apr 2022 - 10:40
    • * de achtervleugel is geen speelgoed

      • + 1
      • 8 apr 2022 - 11:29
    • Maximo

      Posts: 8.733

      Deze wagens zijn net nieuw en er valt nog heel veel downforce te vinden bij het doorontwikkelen.

      Spelen met de achtervleugel is korte termijn, meer downforce vinden overal op de wagen is het doel om voor de titel te kunnen strijden eind 2022.

      • + 0
      • 8 apr 2022 - 12:14
    • Dat zeker. Ik denk dat rbr ook veel gaat vinden in de nieuwe vloer in Imola. Ik denk dat ze bewust er mee wachten en vertrouwen erop dat ze uit Australie met een goed resultaat komen. Dat ziet er nu goed uit. P2 voor Max en racepace is goed op orde.

      • + 0
      • 9 apr 2022 - 10:56
  • SennaS

    Posts: 6.005

    Nou die topsnelheid heeft vorige race de overwinning opgeleverd, dus Marko……..

    • + 0
    • 8 apr 2022 - 20:01

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