Sensor-leverancier voelt zich gesteund door de FIA

  • Gepubliceerd op 19 maa 2014 08:38
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra
Gill Sensors, de leverancier van de apparatuur om brandstofinspuiting te meten, heeft afstand genomen van de discussie over de schuld van de diskwalificatie van Daniel Ricciardo in Australië. De Red Bull Racing-coureur zou op constante basis de maximale flow rate van 100 kilo brandstof per uur overschreden hebben. Volgens het team deugt er weinig van de output van de sensors om dat te meten, maar Gill Sensors is zich van geen kwaad bewust.

In een verklaring laat Gill Sensors weten: "Na de Australische Grand Prix hebben we positieve feedback ontvangen van de FIA over onze apparatuur om de brandstoftoevoer in de gaten te houden. Dat bevestigde hun vertrouwen in de ontwikkeling van ons product, dat voldeed aan de eisen die de bond daaraan stelt. De ontwikkeling behelsde onder meer een uitgebreid testprogramma, waarbij uitvoerig is overlegd met de Formule 1-teams over ontwerp en functionaliteit. De kalibratie is in handen van een andere partner van de FIA. De sensors maken gebruik van ultrasonische technologie, geselecteerd omdat het bestand is tegen de meest extreme omstandigheden."

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  • Ik zou dit ook gaan roepen als ik de leverancier was, je kunt slechts gaan roepen dat de sensors inderdaad niet heel betrouwbaar zijn. Maar het feit dat er meerdere teams problemen hebben gehad met de betrouwbaarheid van de waardes geeft toch aan dat de leverancier niet betrouwbaar genoeg is. Als RBR inderdaad los van welke sensor dan ook meer heeft gebruikt, dan horen ze bestraft te worden. Maar als hun het gevoel hebben dat de sensor niet deugt en dit kunnen bewijzen, dan moet de FIA eens heel goed gaan nadenken. Want dit mag en kan niet dat dit soort producten in de F1 terechtkomen. De FIA is goed bezig om de F1 om zeep te helpen, zoveel regels in een keer veranderen is nooit goed!!

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    • 19 maa 2014 - 08:50
    • Warlord

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      Je mist het sleutelwoord in dit verhaal: "Na de Australische Grand Prix hebben we positieve feedback ontvangen van de FIA over onze apparatuur om de brandstoftoevoer in de gaten te houden. "

      De FIA zegt dat die sensoren betrouwbaar genoeg zijn, oftewel case closed voor Gill. De enige schuldige in dit verhaal is de FIA als de inderdaad sensoren onbetrouwbaar zijn, aangezien zij ze goedkeuren. Gill treft voor mij geen blaam.

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      • 19 maa 2014 - 11:38
  • Beamer

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    Het blijft gewoon een stomme regel! Je krijgt gewoon 100KG brandstof en daar moet je het mee doen. Hoe je het verbruikt zou niets uit mogen maken.
    Als toeschouwer is het eenvoudig te zien als een team meer dan de 100KG heeft verbruikt, want dan staat de auto stil aan de kant van het circuit (dus wel de regel, 100KG is max wat meegenomen mag worden).
    Nu is het zo dat Riciardo is bestraft op basis van een sensor die informatie doorgeeft.

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    • 19 maa 2014 - 09:14
    • Als je nou gewoon de regels een leert begrijpen in plaats van deze onzin steeds te herhalen? Er zijn twee regels:
      1) Max 100kg brandstof in de tank
      2) Max fuel flow naar de motor van 100kg/uur

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      • 19 maa 2014 - 11:15
    • Beamer

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      @F1OSaurus als je nou gewoon leert te lezen!!! Welke onin herhaal ik dan??? Ik zeg gewoon dat ik de regel van de fuel flow onzin vind.

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      • 19 maa 2014 - 11:56
    • @F1OSaurus: Beamer zegt het precies goed, legt duidelijk uit wat hij bedoelt.
      De fuelflow regel is naar mijn en ik denk ook zijn mening overbodig, en zelfs kwalijk.
      FIA heeft deze regel echter toegevoegd om te voorkomen dat er riskante situaties ontstaan en fabrikanten te exotische oplossingen gaan bedenken, maw dus om het vermogen ietwat in te dammen. Ik vind dat jammer, en zoals Beamer zegt, een team dat de gehele race teveel verbruikt zal het einde niet halen, dus daar kijken ze zelf wel link voor uit. FIA is bang voor de te grote snelheidsverschillen die het zou kunnen opleveren door verschillende strategieen omtrent brandstofverbruik vs performance.

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      • 19 maa 2014 - 13:52
    • Lekker belangrijk dan. Er zijn gewoon twee regels. Die 100kg max brandstof heeft hier geen drol mee te maken.

      De fuel flow is een compleet andere limiet en die is er om de kosten van de motor te drukken.

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      • 19 maa 2014 - 17:46
  • Maximo

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    Bij deze de officiële verklaring van de stewards:

    'Reason 1) The Technical Delegate reported to the Stewards that Car 3 exceeded the required fuel mass flow of 100kg/h. (Article 5.1.4 of the Formula One Technical Regulations)

    '2) This parameter is outside of the control of the driver, Daniel Ricciardo.

    '3) The fuel flow is measured using the fuel flow sensor (Art. 5.10.3 & 5.10.4 of the Technical Regulations) which is homologated by the FIA and owned and operated by the team.

    '4) The stewards considered the history of the fitted fuel flow sensor, as described by the team and the Technical Delegate's representative who administers the program. Their description of the history of the sensor matches.

    'a. During Practice 1 a difference in reading between the first three and Run 4 was detected. The same readings as Run 4 were observed throughout Practice 2.

    'b. The team used a different sensor on Saturday but did not get readings that were satisfactory to them or the FIA, so they were instructed to change the sensor within Parc Ferme on Saturday night.

    'c. They operated the original sensor during the race, which provided the same readings as Run 4 of Practice 1, and Practice 2.

    '5) The Stewards heard from the technical representative that when the sensor was installed on Saturday night, he instructed the team to apply an offset to their fuel flow such that the fuel flow would have been legal. He presented an email to the stewards that verified his instruction.

    '6) The technical representative stated to the Stewards that there is variation in the sensors. However, the sensors fall within a known range, and are individually calibrated. They then become the standard which the teams must use for their fuel flow.

    '7) The team stated that based on the difference observed between the two readings in P1, they considered the fuel flow sensor to be unreliable. Therefore, for the start of the race they chose to use their internal fuel flow model, rather than the values provided by the sensor, with the required offset.

    '8) Technical Directive 01614 (1 March 2014) provides the methodology by which the sensor will be used, and, should the sensor fail, the method by which the alternate model could be used.

    'a. The Technical Directive starts by stating: "The homologated fuel flow sensor will be the primary measurement of the fuel flow and will be used to check compliance with Articles 5.1.4 and 5.1.5 of the F1 Technical Regulations..." This is in conformity with Articles 5.10.3 and 5.10.4 of the Technical Regulations.

    'b. The Technical Directive goes on to state: "If at any time WE consider that the sensor has an issue which has not been detected by the system WE will communicate this to the team concerned and switch to a backup system (emphasis added.)

    'c. The backup system is the calculated fuel flow model with a correction factor decided by the FIA.

    '9) The FIA technical representative observed thought the telemetry during the race that the fuel flow was too high and contacted the team, giving them the opportunity to follow his previous instruction, and reduce the fuel flow such that it was within the limit, as measured by the homologated sensor - and thus gave the team the opportunity to be within compliance. The team chose not to make this correction.

    '10) Under Art. 3.2 of the Sporting Regulations it is the duty of the team to ensure compliance with the Technical Regulations throughout the Event. Thus the Stewards find that:

    'A) The team chose to run the car using their fuel flow model, without direction from the FIA. This is a violation of the procedure within TD/ 01614.

    'B) That although the sensor showed a difference in readings between runs in P1, it remains the homologated and required sensor against which the team is obliged to measure their fuel flow, unless given permission by the FIA to do otherwise.

    'C) The Stewards were satisfied by the explanation of the technical representative that by making an adjustment as instructed, the team could have run within the allowable fuel flow.

    'D) That regardless of the team's assertion that the sensor was fault, it is not within their discretion to run a different fuel flow measurement method without the permission of the FIA.

    'The Stewards find that Car 3 was out of compliance with the Technical Regulations and is therefore excluded from the results of the race.'

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    • 19 maa 2014 - 10:40

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