'McLaren dringt bij Honda aan op ontslag Arai'

  • Gepubliceerd op 07 sep 2015 12:15
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra

De druk op Yasuhisa Arai neemt met de minuut toe. De motorsportbaas van Honda moest zich in Monza ten overstaan van de internationale media verantwoorden voor de slechte prestaties van de Japanse autofabrikant dit jaar. Ook bij partner McLaren loopt de irritatie steeds hoger op.

Vooral de loze beloftes over verbeteringen zijn de Britse renstal een doorn in het oog. The Daily Mail stelt dat McLaren bij de top van Honda aangedrongen heeft op een ontslag voor Arai. Sky Sports F1 meldt dat Ron Dennis inderdaad een brief naar het management van het Japanse merk heeft gestuurd, maar de inhoud van dat schrijven is niet bekend.

Maar dat het niet goed gaat bij McLaren-Honda is nog zwak uitgedrukt. Op Monza zagen coureurs Fernando Alonso en Jenson Button hun collega's aan alle kanten voorbij stuiven. Alonso merkte op dat McLaren maar drie tienden verliest met het chassis, de overige drie seconden per rondje die het tekort komt ten opzichte van Mercedes wordt veroorzaakt door de motor.

McLaren dreigt in een neerwaartse spiraal te belanden. Door de zwakke prestaties lukt het niet om een grote vis als nieuwe titelsponsor te vangen en het grenzeloze vertrouwen van bestaande geldschieters zal een keer opraken. Als sponsors afhaken, dan daalt het budget en dat maakt het er niet makkelijker op. Er moet snel iets gebeuren bij McLaren-Honda.

Dat zal ook vast wel kloppen. Arai had het over de ICE. Dat ze een half rondje 160pk electropower tekort komen, dat vermelde Arai wijselijk niet.

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  • 7 sep 2015 - 12:40

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  • Beamer

    Posts: 1.508

    Geruchten zijn dat zowel Johny Walker als Santander hun opties aan het bekijken zijn en zich willen terugtrekken als sponsor.

    • + 0
    • 7 sep 2015 - 12:17
    • Zucht... JohnNIE Walker. Hoe vaak dat wel niet fout geschreven is.

      • + 1
      • 7 sep 2015 - 14:47
  • masf1

    Posts: 7.074

    McGregor op de zijkant zou wel wat wezen!

    • + 1
    • 7 sep 2015 - 12:17
    • LOL :-)

      • + 0
      • 7 sep 2015 - 13:30
    • @MASF1
      Een sponsor op de zijkant van een McLaren?
      Nee, volgens Ron Dennis is het fenomeen (hoofd-) sponsor een achterhaald iets (...).

      • + 2
      • 7 sep 2015 - 14:27
  • Op de Blaren-Honda.
    Hoogmoed komt voor de val. En nu volgt de duikvlucht.... jammer maar een feit.

    • + 1
    • 7 sep 2015 - 12:18
  • Blijkt maar weer dat de motoren met die elektronische systemen veel te ingewikkeld zijn.

    Stel dat Mercedes in 2014 het niet zo goed voor elkaar had gehad dan was het allemaal een stuk makkelijker geweest. Zat het allemaal wat dichter bij elkaar, was er nergens paniek. Heel de motor met vooral de elektronische systemen is veel te veel de belangrijkste factor geworden. De balans tussen chassis, motor en aero is geheel weg.

    Gelukkig voor mij dat Williams "per ongeluk" bij de juiste partner zit

    • + 1
    • 7 sep 2015 - 12:27
  • JV fan

    Posts: 2.523

    Die Arai moet inderdaad opstappen , elke keer maar roepen dat ze even sterke pakketten leveren als ferrari , maar er uit eindelijk toch af en toe 200 pk te kort komen op het Mercedes pakket,

    • + 0
    • 7 sep 2015 - 12:29
  • Cypher

    Posts: 2.190

    Zei Honda niet zo lang geleden dat ze op gelijke hoogte met Ferrari zouden staan na hun update :O

    • + 0
    • 7 sep 2015 - 12:30
    • Dat zal ook vast wel kloppen. Arai had het over de ICE. Dat ze een half rondje 160pk electropower tekort komen, dat vermelde Arai wijselijk niet.

      • + 2
      • 7 sep 2015 - 12:40
  • Arai wordt Aiai...

    De man kan beter de eer aan zichzelf laten en opstappen.
    Ik blijf het een schande vinden, enerzijds omdat het toch om Mclaren-Honda gaat, nog steeds een topteam. Jammer genoeg glijden ze stijl af naar achtergrondspelers. Anderzijds is de - misschien typisch Japanse - arrogantie heel misplaatst.

    Er is, wat er ook wordt beweerd, quasi geen vooruitgang. Ik zie ook geen goede basis voor 2016. Een jaar dat sowieso wordt benaderd als transitperiode voor de grote overgang naar de 'nieuwe F1' vanaf 2017. Het is een benarde situatie...

    Button is doodeerlijk en streng voor zijn werkgever. Alonso is nog heel vriendelijk in zijn bewoording en valt steeds terug op zijn 'lange termijn project' -uitleg. Echter kan er niemand gelukkig zijn met deze situatie en Fernando is meer het type van "opkroppen en dan ontploffen".

    • + 0
    • 7 sep 2015 - 12:32
  • Toch moeten ze ook zorgen dat ze niet in paniek raken en een te grote re-organisatie doorvoeren.

    Gebrek aan sponsors zullen ze nog wel even kunnen trekken gok ik. McLaren heeft nog goede sponsors, heeft zelf de financiële middelen om het een en ander te compenseren en van Honda is ook bekend dat ze geld bij storten als het nodig is bij hun partners (zie Brown GP).

    Honda moet koste wat kost die motor snel gelijkwaardig aan de rest krijgen. Hopelijk laat de regelgeving dat ook toe.

    • + 0
    • 7 sep 2015 - 12:32
    • Brawn

      • + 0
      • 7 sep 2015 - 13:32
    • @Richardt
      Het grote probleem is dat de regelgeving ontwikkeling juist NIET toe staat. Als de teams / fabrikanten de gelegenheid hadden gekregen hun producten daadwerkelijk te ontwikkelen tijdens het seizoen, dan had dit verhaal niet 2 seizoenen lang geëtterd...

      • + 0
      • 7 sep 2015 - 14:30
  • maxioos

    Posts: 1.824

    Die laatste alinea is ook wat ik al een paar races vrees aangezien de uitgesproken verwachtingen zo ambitieus waren en ze zo tegenvallen missen ze in elk geval de aan de ambiteuse verwachtingen gekoppelde prijzengeld.

    • + 0
    • 7 sep 2015 - 12:40
  • FF offtopic:

    Vandaag staat Lotus voor de rechter en kan een faillissement uitgesproken worden.

    • + 0
    • 7 sep 2015 - 12:43
    • Heb je een bron? Waar je dit verder volgen?

      • + 0
      • 7 sep 2015 - 13:13
    • "Today in London, Judge Birss will hear evidence and make a decision on whether the Enstone Team should be placed into administration. Should this happen, a deal between Renault and Lotus may well be expedited over the next few days as he Genii investors backs will be truly against the wall."

      TJ13

      • + 0
      • 7 sep 2015 - 13:20
    • Bedankt.

      • + 0
      • 7 sep 2015 - 13:22
    • Wel onduidelijk zo al die Pietjes :-)

      • + 1
      • 7 sep 2015 - 13:26
    • Peter

      Posts: 977

      Wilde al vragen of je schizofreen was :-)

      • + 2
      • 7 sep 2015 - 13:38
    • :-)

      • + 0
      • 7 sep 2015 - 13:53
    • @Peter
      Pietje had een leuke conversatie met zichzelf, totdat jij je ermee ging bemoeien ;-)

      • + 0
      • 7 sep 2015 - 14:32
    • maxioos

      Posts: 1.824

      Een beetje hoop ik dan dat Red Bull of Honda bij de curator aanklopt en het opkoopt voor Renault het kan doen en er dan Honda motoren inzetten. Vissen die Fransen lekker achter het net.

      • + 0
      • 7 sep 2015 - 14:32
    • Ooit een blauwtje gelopen bij een Francaise, MAXIOOS? ;-)

      • + 0
      • 7 sep 2015 - 17:46
  • Toch vond ik Button's opmerking wel duidelijk, hij gaf inmiddels duidelijk alleen de ERS nog de schuld. Over de verbrandingsmotor klaagt hij dus ook niet. De claims dus dat die voldoende pk levert ten opzichte van de anderen zou dan dus wel kunnen kloppen. Jammer alleen dat die ERS ook gewoon 160pk moet kunnen leveren, is nog steeds een flink verschilletje als die in het geheel niet haalt.

    • + 0
    • 7 sep 2015 - 12:52
  • Dee dachten, we gaan niet de weg bewandelen die RBR heeft gekozen: Wevragen gewoon meteen om het ontslag van de roverhoofdman, dan hebben we daar in de toekomst in ieder geval geen last meer van :)

    • + 1
    • 7 sep 2015 - 13:10
  • Gamert

    Posts: 740

    Motorsportbaas? Aangezien Honda het in de Indycar wel goed doet. Dan lijkt het me toch onredelijk om meneer Arai te ontslaan. Tenzij Arai alleen maar over de F1 gaat.
    Maar de titel 'motorsportbaas' klinkt mij alsof hij ook baas is van de Indycar divisie.

    • + 0
    • 7 sep 2015 - 14:05
  • Kevin

    Posts: 5.294

    Ik weet niet of dit nou wel de manier is. Japanners hebben hun eigen werkcultuur en bemoeienis van buitenaf aangaande interne kwesties wordt niet op prijsgesteld.

    Dat gezegd hebbende, zou Honda uit zichzelf iemand anders op die plek moeten zetten. Ik word er enorm pissig om wanneer ik naar een kwalificatie zit te kijken waarbij mijn team 3 seconden trager is dan de nummer 1, en de motorleverancier het vervolgens in zijn hoofd haalt te roepen dat zijn motor beter is dan de Renault. Of je het nu alleen over de ICE hebt of niet (wat sowieso onzin is), weet wanneer je gewoon je mond dicht moet houden!

    Dat McLaren weer een goede auto heeft gebouwd moge duidelijk zijn afgaande op de reacties van niet alleen analisten, maar ook van de coureurs zelf.. Daarom is het enorm balen dat Honda het zo zwaar laat afweten.

    Waar ik zo bang voor ben is dat McLaren een tweede Williams wordt na dit seizoen (of al is). Er zijn bijna geen sponsors en bestaande sponsors (Johnnie Walker, Santander) haken mogelijk af. Tel daarbij op dat McLaren de doelstelling voor dit seizoen (5e) niet gaat halen en daarmee veel prijzengeld misloopt, en dit seizoen zou weleens het begin van McLaren's doodvonnis kunnen zijn. Ik wil er niet eens aan denken.

    • + 0
    • 7 sep 2015 - 19:15
  • Rimmer

    Posts: 11.467

    Zou Abiteboul dan ook niet eens ontslagen moeten worden?
    De Ferrari motor van 2014 was ook ruk maar in 2015 wisten ze toch sterk te verbeteren. Misschien dat Honda het in April wat beter voor elkaar heeft. Honda heeft de middelen en de capaciteiten en het geld en de wil om dit op te lossen. Maar het kost tijd. Een hele nieuwe motor bouwen is misschien nog wel beter en wie weet zijn ze daar al mee begonnen parallel aan de huidige motor. Ze hebben een jaar minder tijd gehad dus ik geef ze nog wel wat krediet. Als het eenmaal gaat lopen daar dan kan het hard gaan.

    • + 0
    • 7 sep 2015 - 21:55
  • Caramba

    Posts: 5.786

    Grappig. In 2013 schreef ik al dat McLaren topteam af was. Velen vonden dat volstrekt belachelijk (en sommigen nog steeds), maar achteraf gezien is dit mijn beste voorspelling ooit.

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    • 8 sep 2015 - 10:22
    • Moet je een schouderklopje of een applausje?

      • + 1
      • 8 sep 2015 - 11:28
    • U bent genomineerd voor de Jomanda award 2015!

      • + 1
      • 8 sep 2015 - 12:50
    • Caramba

      Posts: 5.786

      @malle pietje2013:
      Ben je mal, het is maar een spelletje. Meestal roept men maar wat (inclusief ikzelf), er is namelijk niets makkelijker dan commentaar geven. Maar een voorspelling doen of een visie uiteenzetten is een stuk lastiger, vooral als die tegen de heersende mening ingaat. Het genoegen zit ‘m in je visie bevestigd zien, daar kan geen applausje tegenop. Bv nog voor Alonso 1 meter in de Honda had gereden riep ik al dat ie nooit meer wereldkampioen zou worden, en daar blijf ik bij. Of zes races geleden heb het puntenverloop van Max voorspeld, en dat is vrijwel zo uitgekomen.
      @Brabham: ik zou teleurgesteld zijn als ik 'm niet zou winnen, ik heb al even stiekem op een blauwe jurk gegoogled. Als ik er toch naast grijp heb ik daar overigens ook begrip voor. Ik had bv aan het begin van dit jaar voorspeld dat Max als 7e in het kampioenschap zou eindigen. Maar dat de Renault motor zó onbetrouwbaar zou zijn, had ik ook niet voorzien...

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      • 8 sep 2015 - 13:08

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