Ferrari tovert Sauber om tot een waar opleidingsteam

  • Gepubliceerd op 31 jul 2017 11:52
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra

Het team van Sauber wordt vanaf volgend jaar weer een plek waar Ferrari veelbelovende talenten kan stallen. Dat is het gevolg van de nieuwe samenwerking die de Scuderia met de Zwitserse renstal is aangegaan. Sauber verscheurde de intentieverklaring om voor 2018 met Honda in zee te gaan en sloot in plaats daarvan een nieuw contract af met huidige partner Ferrari.

Ferrari zal Sauber volgend seizoen voorzien van de nieuwste generatie krachtbronnen. In ruil daarvoor wordt in elk geval één van de stoeltjes bij het team door een coureur uit de opleiding van de Scuderia bemant. Waarschijnlijk krijgt Formule 2-coureur Charles Leclerc de kans, al onderzoekt Ferrari de mogelijkheden om ook Antonio Giovinazzi bij Sauber onder te brengen.

Ferrari-voorzitter Sergio Marchionne: "De samenwerking met Sauber is zeer positief voor ons. Het biedt ons de kans om een opleidingsteam te hebben. We beschikken over een aantal buitengewone talenten in ons talentenprogramma, die moeten we ervaring op laten doen." Ferrari voorziet in 2018 naast het eigen fabrieksteam en Sauber ook Haas F1 Team van motoren.

De teller staat dus op drie teams, maar er is ruimte voor meer. Marchionne zou extra klantenteams verwelkomen. "We zijn op zoek om ons klantenbestand verder uit te breiden en we hebben met Liberty Media en de FIA afgesproken om eventuele nieuwe Formule 1-teams aan motoren te helpen. Hoe meer klantenteams we hebben, hoe beter."

lees anders een de hele tekst eens.

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  • The dre

    Posts: 2.184

    Lijkt me een prima plan.

    • + 0
    • 31 jul 2017 - 11:58
    • Ze willen alleen nieuwe teams geen concurrent . Denk dat Sauber alfa motoren gaat krijgen

      • + 0
      • 31 jul 2017 - 19:13
    • Vince78

      Posts: 493

      Ik denk dat RedBull of McLaren gewoon 0 op het REQUEST krijgen....

      • + 0
      • 31 jul 2017 - 19:51
  • 'Hoe meer klantenteams, hoe beter.'

    Dat is toch wel lachwekkend.
    Stel je voor dat Red Bull aanklopt: ik geloof niet dat ze dan Red Bull motoren zullen leveren...
    Oh, wacht: in ruil voor Max????

    • + 2
    • 31 jul 2017 - 12:00
    • lees anders een de hele tekst eens.

      • + 6
      • 31 jul 2017 - 12:55
    • Wees toch niet zo hypocriet natuurlijk gaan ze redbull een directe concurrent die te beroerd is zelf een motor te ontwikkelen niet helpen en het werk voor ze doen. Redbull moet zelf de wil opbrengen om die stap te maken doen ze dat niet dat zijn ze niet toegewijd genoeg. Het geld om een pu te ontwikkelen is er de hulp ook doe je het niet moet je ook niet zeuren als klant team.

      • + 2
      • 31 jul 2017 - 14:12
    • Ik lees altijd de hele tekst, Henny. Ik haal er nu enkel 1 zin uit.

      • + 1
      • 31 jul 2017 - 14:56
    • Sander, ik snap je punt, maar als ze bij Ferrari zo'n uitspraak doen, dan moeten ze het ook menen. En Red Bull is vast bereid dik te betalen dan.
      En als je als Ferrari dan de Red Bull verslaat, dan ben je echt goed. Maar een motor aan Red Bull leveren durven ze niet. En dat is nog een standpunt wat ik wel begrijp...
      Maar dan niet deze uitspraak doen, daar ben ik niet zo van...

      • + 1
      • 31 jul 2017 - 15:01
    • En ja, ik weet dat er staat: 'Nieuwe Formule 1 teams.'

      • + 0
      • 31 jul 2017 - 15:03
    • dat stukje dat je eruithaalt is een deel van 1 citaat. in dit geval haast idioot te noemen dat je alleen dat deel pakt terwijl de rest minimaal net zo belangrijk is.

      • + 0
      • 31 jul 2017 - 15:57
    • ringo

      Posts: 3.629

      redbull is directe concurrentie net als mclaren en die willen 1ste klassen motoren hebben zelfde als ferrari.. dus die gaan ze zoiezo niet geven misschien 1 jaar oudere motoren. teams zoals haas en sauber hoeven ze niet bang te zijn want die maken geen superieurder chassis. Redbull met een top ferrari, kan ferrari nog niet eens bijbenen... hun leveren motoren aan nieuw teams mits ze weten dat ze niet in gevecht hoeven.

      • + 0
      • 31 jul 2017 - 16:33
    • Ringo, dat is precies wat ik bedoel. Als ze echt lef hebben dan zouden ze wel aan Red Bull leveren. Maar dat durven ze niet.

      • + 1
      • 31 jul 2017 - 16:42
    • Henny, eens, tuurlijk is de rest van het artikel zeker net zo belangrijk. Daarom had ik ook gezet: 'Stel je eens voor dat....'
      Maar laat maar.

      • + 1
      • 31 jul 2017 - 16:44
  • PUIK!

    • + 1
    • 31 jul 2017 - 12:00
  • Ferrari kan beter inderdaad Charles Leclerc plaatsen bij iemand die Ferrari motoren geleverd krijgt, buiten het fabrieksteam zelf. Laat die jongen niet gelijk in het diepe gegooid worden.

    Sommige commentatoren roepen gelijk dat Max ook bij een topteam terechtgekomen is maar die vergeten dat hij eerst bij STR heeft gereden en toen pas naar Red Bull ging dus laat ook Charles Leclerc dat pad bewandelen en kijken hoe dat hem vergaat. Is beter voor beide partijen.

    • + 0
    • 31 jul 2017 - 12:00
    • kortvdl

      Posts: 1.125

      PATRICK2289, Ben het helemaal met je eens!
      Zie wat voor learning curve vandoorne heeft(ja honda, en ja alonso). Maar het lijkt mij ook beter dat Leclerc zijn F2 kunsten laat zien in bijv. een sauber(wel nieuwe spec motor). Als hij het dan nog zo goed doet zien we vanzelf spectaculaire dingen van hem.

      • + 0
      • 31 jul 2017 - 12:18
  • jaapdeaap

    Posts: 838

    Dan kan McLaren er ook eens gaan shoppen...

    • + 1
    • 31 jul 2017 - 12:01
    • Goed lezen heren; Ferrari wil NIEUWE teams van motoren voorzien. Cashen dus, zonder bedreiging voor kampioenschap.

      Goed dat ze een Sauber zitje ruilen voor goedkopere motoren, voor zowel Sauber als Ferrari (talent) een prima deal. Je zou toch maar gratis Leclerc ter beschikking gesteld krijgen!

      • + 1
      • 31 jul 2017 - 13:33
  • PKracing

    Posts: 812

    Maar idd.. Red Bull Ferrari kom maar op.

    • + 0
    • 31 jul 2017 - 12:04
    • waylon

      Posts: 2.285

      Dat gebeurd niet want ze zijn bang voor RBR.

      • + 0
      • 31 jul 2017 - 13:34
    • Edgar

      Posts: 1.690

      Mercedes wilde in tegenstelling graag leveren aan RB.......toch?

      • + 1
      • 31 jul 2017 - 14:36
  • Ah, dit veranderd de zaak wel. Ik had verwacht dat Sauber gewoon weer een paar pallets met Ferrari motoren zou krijgen en verder kon aanmodderen zoals de afgelopen jaren. Vergeleken daarmee was de samenwerking met Honda op de duur denk ik beter geweest.

    Het lijkt erop dat de samenwerking met Sauber nu dus iets verder gaat en dat Sauber er in elk geval financieel gezien op vooruit gaat (= meer geld voor ontwikkeling).

    Zowel Giovinazzi als Leclerc volgend jaar in de F1 lijkt me een leuk idee!

    • + 0
    • 31 jul 2017 - 12:06
  • Kellykel

    Posts: 133

    Ik zie een bekokstoofd plan. Hopelijk hapt RBR hopen ze. In ruil voor Max . Of denk ik te veel out off the box

    • + 0
    • 31 jul 2017 - 12:11
    • Rimmer

      Posts: 11.467

      Neuh, je leest gewoon slecht ;)

      • + 0
      • 31 jul 2017 - 14:26
    • DBGates

      Posts: 3.713

      Hooenlijk krijgt str de Honda motoren en krijgen de Jappen het op de rit dan kan max in 2019 t/m 2027 gewoon kampioen worden in de Red Bull Honda. (En ja ik weet dat er in 2021 nieuwe motoren komen)

      • + 0
      • 31 jul 2017 - 20:46
  • Towel986

    Posts: 509

    Hup, Ericsson eruit

    • + 1
    • 31 jul 2017 - 12:13
    • StevenQ

      Posts: 9.179

      de nieuwe eigenaren van Sauber zijn de sponsoren van Ericsson

      • + 1
      • 31 jul 2017 - 12:16
    • Racekees

      Posts: 210

      En wehrlein! Tjussie!

      • + 0
      • 31 jul 2017 - 12:18
    • nutstree

      Posts: 545

      Ik denk eerder dat Wehrlein zich zorgen moet maken. Al zie ik ook liever Ericsson vertrekken.

      • + 0
      • 31 jul 2017 - 12:19
    • StevenQ

      Posts: 9.179

      ook al omdat Wehrlein een Mercedes junior is en Ferrari die dan misschien liever niet met hun nieuwe motoren ziet rijden

      • + 0
      • 31 jul 2017 - 12:26
    • Ik zie Wehrlein dan wel Massa vervangen bij Williams. Desalniettemin mag Ericsson van mij wel verkassen.

      • + 0
      • 31 jul 2017 - 14:50
  • Lees nu nog eens! Nieuwe teams, ofwel geen bestaande!

    • + 0
    • 31 jul 2017 - 12:25
    • RaycF1

      Posts: 17

      Lees nu nog eens! "De teller staat dus op drie teams, maar er is ruimte voor meer. Marchionne zou extra klantenteams verwelkomen.
      EN we hebben met Liberty Media en de FIA afgesproken om eventuele nieuwe Formule 1-teams aan motoren te helpen."

      Dat ene woordje EN dat betekend dat ze oude EN nieuwe teams willen voorzien van motoren. (behalve McLaren en Red Bull. Maar dat zeggen ze niet)

      • + 0
      • 31 jul 2017 - 20:25
  • Ben benieuwd of ze dan ook dat jonge talent wat dan bij Sauber zit overhevelen naar Ferrari.
    Of wachten ze daarmee tot zij oud en belegen zijn.

    • + 0
    • 31 jul 2017 - 12:29
    • Bonsai

      Posts: 1.717

      Als Leclerc laat zien dat hij in de F1 thuis hoort komen de andere teams vanzelf. Dan zal Ferrari hem ook kunnen stallen bij een team dat geen Ferrari motoren heeft.

      • + 0
      • 31 jul 2017 - 12:50
  • Een alfa romeo team? Als een soort toro rosso

    • + 0
    • 31 jul 2017 - 12:54
  • Iedereen weet dat Ferrari echt geen motoren aan Red bull gaat leveren

    • + 0
    • 31 jul 2017 - 12:56
  • Adjo83

    Posts: 904

    Bye bye Wehrlein!!

    • + 0
    • 31 jul 2017 - 13:08
    • Ja, die is de klos en heeft volgend jaar waarschijnlijk geen stoeltje meer. Misschien kan hij DTM gaan rijden, maar ook dat wordt een zwanenzang, wat Mercedes betreft.

      • + 0
      • 31 jul 2017 - 13:50
    • Rimmer

      Posts: 11.467

      Cyril wil de komende jaren serieus richting een kampioenschap gaan werken en probeert Mercedes motoren voor het team te regelen. Dan zou Wehrlein dus naast Hulkenberg kunnen komen. :p

      • + 0
      • 31 jul 2017 - 14:29
  • klinkt goed. Zeker Leclerc lijkt een groot talent te zijn. Maar het is een erg groot risico om die in een topteam te plaatsen met alle druk daarbij. Kijk maar naar Vandoorne, die doet het niet superslecht, maar als je naar zijn jaar in de gp2 kijkt had ik van hem toch wel meer verwacht. Nu can Leclerc ervaring opdoen bij Sauber en kan Ferrari rustig kijken of hij de overstap waardig is.

    • + 0
    • 31 jul 2017 - 13:09
  • REDNECK

    Posts: 373

    Veel beter dan met Honda in zee gaan.
    Nu krijgt Sauber ook fabriekssteun en kunnen ze zich weer gaan mengen in de subtop.

    • + 0
    • 31 jul 2017 - 13:22
  • Jacques

    Posts: 172

    Dit artikel geeft op voorhand al ruimte tot discussies en persoonlijk meningen. Is er ook een officiële bronvermelding van Ferrari F1 beschikbaar?

    • + 0
    • 31 jul 2017 - 13:50
  • Grindbak

    Posts: 261

    Donkere wolken pakken zich samen boven RBR, volgend jaar worden ze door Sauber om de oren gereden...

    • + 0
    • 31 jul 2017 - 14:02
    • Fernandi

      Posts: 69

      Ja net zoals dit jaar Force India, Williams en Haas F1 het vuur aan de schenen leggen bij RBR.

      • + 0
      • 31 jul 2017 - 18:20
  • 0xygen

    Posts: 1.160

    Dat zorgt dus ervoor dat wehrlein problemen krijgt, een Mercedes protoge

    • + 0
    • 31 jul 2017 - 14:29
  • Beri

    Posts: 6.186

    Terug naar hoe alles was in de tijd van Sauber toen het nog met Red Bull sponsoring rond reed. Prima toch?

    • + 0
    • 31 jul 2017 - 14:40
  • twslex

    Posts: 570

    Even goed googlen op news en je vind dat volgend jaar in de sauber Antonio Giovinazzi en Charles Leclerc zitten: "The engines for Sauber are also a way to create a kind of junior team for our young drivers."

    • + 0
    • 31 jul 2017 - 14:46
    • d@nny

      Posts: 3.226

      Hoef je niet op te googlen hoor. Staat ook gewoon in het artikel hierboven :-)

      • + 0
      • 31 jul 2017 - 14:52
    • twslex

      Posts: 570

      Hier staat waarschijnlijk en onderzoekt, dat staat niet in het originele bericht. Marchionne is daar heel duidelijk in en was daarom ook afgereisd naar budapest. Ook had charles de dag ervoor al verklaard dat hij volgend jaar in de F1 zit als de deal gesloten is.

      • + 0
      • 31 jul 2017 - 14:59
    • Jacques

      Posts: 172

      D@nny: ik begrijp uit jouw reactie dat elk artikel dat hier geplaatst is dus ook de werkelijkheid is?

      • + 0
      • 31 jul 2017 - 15:50
    • d@nny

      Posts: 3.226

      @Jacques Ik begrijp uit jouw reactie dat elke google search die je uitvoerd de werkelijkheid is?

      Doe niet zo moeilijk met je reactie, als het in het artikel staat kan je er toch op reageren?

      Als je het orginele bericht leest op bijvoorbeeld "thisisF1" of elke andere website die door de bovengenoemde google search als resultaat wordt gegeven staat er ook in het Engelstalige artikel dat ze er mee bezig zijn.

      Speaking on a visit to the paddock, Ferrari president Marchionne said in Hungary: “The engines for Sauber are also a way to create a kind of junior team for our young drivers.

      “We have two great young talents, but to secure the future of Ferrari, we need the chance to train them somewhere.

      “We need space for them, so it’s a great idea and we’re working on it,” Marchionne added.

      Staat trouwens ook gewoon op de engelstalige versie van deze website.

      • + 0
      • 1 aug 2017 - 09:42
  • Kenju

    Posts: 2.629

    Hoezo is het een 'waar opleidingsteam' dan? Talentenstallen op basis van een bestaande relatie gebeurt immers altijd wel overal als hiermee kleinere teams goedkoop een goed talent kunnen krijgen.

    • + 1
    • 31 jul 2017 - 15:00
  • En daar klopt dan McLaren aan de deur. en toen zij Ferrari sorry maar jullie niet, Stel je voor dat je voor ons eindig, dat mag niet. Dus geen motoren voor jullie.

    • + 0
    • 31 jul 2017 - 17:05
  • Ericsson mag eruit voor Leclerc en een fikse korting op de motoren

    • + 0
    • 31 jul 2017 - 17:48
    • Kenju

      Posts: 2.629

      Wehrlein eerder. Ericsson is het schatje van de eigenaren.

      • + 0
      • 31 jul 2017 - 18:40

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