Ferrari ziet weinig in standaardisatie onderdelen: "Risico voor de Formule 1"

  • Gepubliceerd op 13 sep 2019 14:40
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  • Door: Bjorn Smit

Ferrari geen grote voorstander van de steeds verdergaande standaardisatie van onderdelen in de Formule 1. Teambaas Mattia Binotto vindt zelfs dat het een risico kan vormen voor de sport.

De Formule 1 gaat vanaf 2021 werken met nieuwe reglementen. Naast de komst van financiële reglementen gaan ook de technische reglementen flink op de schop. Zo is de FIA van plan om meer standaard onderdelen voor te schrijven in een poging de kosten voor de teams te drukken. Onderdelen waar tot nu toe over gesproken wordt, zijn onder andere standaard remsystemen en standaard velgen.

Ferrari lijkt weinig te zien in die plannen. Binotto ziet risico's en wijst daarbij naar de Formule 2, waar in 2018 grote problemen met de nieuwe bolides en standaard onderdelen waren. "We geloven dat standaardisatie zelfs een risico kan vormen voor de F1 in de toekomst, omdat je niet weet hoe de betrouwbaarheid van zo'n standaardonderdeel is in het begin. We hebben het probleem gezien in de Formule 2."

"De problemen met de standaard koppeling zorgden ervoor dat twee races achter de safety car gestart moesten worden, omdat de koppeling niet betrouwbaar genoeg is. We zullen standaardisatie misschien wel accepteren, maar we moeten het eerst betrouwbaar maken en ervoor zorgen dat het van een niveau is dat je in de Formule 1 verwacht", vertelde de Italiaan op Monza.

Binotto ziet extra kosten door standaard onderdelen

Ook bij het financiële plaatje zet Binotto zijn vraagtekens. "Je moet er ook voor zorgen dat we geen extra kosten krijgen door het ontwikkelen van een standaard onderdeel. We vermoeden dat we onze auto helemaal opnieuw moeten ontwerpen voor de standaard onderdelen die voorgesteld zijn voor 2021. Ook moeten we ervoor zorgen dat het nieuwe onderdeel goed functioneert. Dat geeft extra kosten - niet direct voor na 2021, maar in de periode tussen nu en 2021."

Gelijk heeft hij, je kan er in door schieten ... Bepaalde zaken kan je prima standaardiseren, mooiste voorbeeld van standaardisatie zijn de banden maar ook remsystemen zal wel lukken ... Maar ik denk dat je moet uitkijken om voor heel specifieke onderdelen ,bijvoorbeeld voor de PU ,, er geen ... [Lees verder]

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  • 13 sep 2019 - 16:32

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  • Zou hij zichzelf geloven?

    • + 0
    • 13 sep 2019 - 15:08
  • Kunnen ze hun vetorecht weer laten gelden .
    Dat hebben ze volgens mij een paar terug ook gedaan over de prijs van klantenmotoren .

    Of hebben ze toen gezegd dat ze hun veto zouden aanspreken wanneer er een maximum prijs voor de klantenmotor zou gelden ?

    • + 0
    • 13 sep 2019 - 15:10
    • Een paar jaar terug ....

      • + 0
      • 13 sep 2019 - 15:11
    • Ferrari heeft hun veto nog nooit gebruikt.
      Verder snijdt t best hout wat hij zegt.
      Het F2 verhaal is pijnlijk waar namelijk.
      De titel klopt ook niet erg.
      Ze zijn kritisch op een aantal punten en vinden dat daar goed naar gekeken moet worden. Helemaal niet dat ze er niks in zien.

      • + 2
      • 13 sep 2019 - 15:47
    • Dat vetorecht, waar ik altijd tegen was, kan een reddingsboei zijn voor de sport. God weet wat 'ze' nog allemaal veranderen om de sport (lees: financiën) nog beter te maken. Voor mij mag het best blijven zoals het nu is.

      • + 1
      • 13 sep 2019 - 15:51
    • "Ferrari geniet het controversiële privilege om gebruik te maken van een vetorecht. Hiermee konden ze in 2015 bijvoorbeeld het prijslimiet van de klantenmotoren tegenhouden, iets wat haaks staat op de belangen van de klantenteams. Maximaal 11 miljoen euro mocht een motor kosten, hierdoor zouden Williams, Haas en Racing Point bijvoorbeeld flink kunnen besparen. Toch zegt Ferrari-teambaas Binotto ironisch genoeg dat hij het vetorecht wil behouden zodat ‘ook andere teams ervan kunnen profiteren."

      Dat las ik dus op een andere site .

      • + 0
      • 13 sep 2019 - 16:18
    • Uiteindelijk is die brakke Renault PU nog steeds het duurst. Maar denk dat daar oa wel de oplossingen liggen om het echt betaalbaarder te maken voor de kleinere teams.

      • + 0
      • 13 sep 2019 - 16:33
    • @Spielberg

      Er zal mee gedreigd zijn door Ferrari , maar officieel is t nog nooit gebruikt

      • + 0
      • 13 sep 2019 - 17:18
    • @M@ximumOvedrive, wanneer je van tevoren aangeeft dat je het gaat gebruiken, dan heeft het toch geen zin om tijdens een meeting er tegenin te gaan ?
      Dus eigenlijk hebben ze het wel gebruikt in mijn ogen .

      • + 1
      • 13 sep 2019 - 17:40
    • @Spielberg

      Dreigen werkt 1 of 2 keer , maar vervolgens zullen teams een non-issue tevoorschijn toveren waarvan men weet waar Ferrari op tegen is en de rest niet waartegen het veto daadwerkelijk zal worden gebruikt en zo het veto ter sprake stellen/van tafel proberen te vegen .

      Ferrari weet dit ook heel goed .
      daarom zal men ook zeer voorzichtig zijn om dit daadwerkelijk te gebruiken , overigens met Alfa romeo en mindere mate Haas als satteliet teams hebben ze dit veto tegenwoordig eigenlijk niet eens meer nodig .

      • + 0
      • 13 sep 2019 - 19:45
  • LimboF1

    Posts: 6.088

    Ik zou geen problemen hebben met standaard onderdelen.
    Maar dan alleen het hybride systeem en turbo bijvoorbeeld en/of de versnellingsbak.
    Wielophanging, chassis, vleugels en verbrandingsmotor zijn de onderdelen waar het team het verschil in kan maken.

    • + 0
    • 13 sep 2019 - 15:17
    • Ik vind dat onzin. Dat hybridegedeelte komt mee met de PU die je koopt tenzij je er voor kiest zelf iets anders ertegenaan te ontwikkelen. Zelfde geldt voor de turbo en de versnellingsbak. Die kan je allemaal gewoon inkopen dus waarom zou dat standaard moeten zijn. De een heeft gewoon een beter product dan de ander, dat hoort bij F1. Het is al zulke eenheidsworst met al die dichtgetimmerde toestanden. Ik vind het niks, dat gestandariseer. Klasses met gelijkwaardig materiaal zijn er al genoeg.

      • + 2
      • 13 sep 2019 - 15:49
    • LimboF1

      Posts: 6.088

      Ik zie het ook liever niet dan wel.
      Maar je zult ergens moeten beginnen en mij lijkt dit dan de weg die er te bewandelen zou zijn.
      Als met niet naar standaard onderdelen toegaat, dan zullen de verschillen altijd te groot blijven en is een budgetplafond niet haalbaar.

      • + 0
      • 13 sep 2019 - 16:13
    • Mee eens, budgetplafond wordt zo lastig controleerbaar, dat gaat er denk ik niet komen. Maar alle hybridetechniek is inmiddels ook ontwikkeld en beschikbaar net zoals versnellingsbakken etc. Wellicht een maximumprijs eraan knopen een idee. Verdeling van het geld kan ook nog beter denk ik. Bepaalde bonussen mogen wat mij betreft weg, zoals de bonus die Ferrari krijgt al hebben ze nog geen meter gereden.

      • + 0
      • 13 sep 2019 - 16:31
    • LimboF1

      Posts: 6.088

      De verdeling van het geld moet zeker anders en er moet zeker naar de bonussen worden gekeken.
      Er moet gewoon een eerlijker systeem komen voor de verdeling van de gelden.

      • + 1
      • 13 sep 2019 - 17:38
  • ringo

    Posts: 3.629

    Denk gewoon manier van ontwikkelen van bepaalde onderdelen moet veranderen... meer open...

    • + 1
    • 13 sep 2019 - 16:20
    • Open source, best interessant om het zo te benaderen

      • + 1
      • 13 sep 2019 - 16:35
    • ringo

      Posts: 3.629

      Denk als je de huidige hybride systemen opschop doet, en een opensource hybride systemen ontwikkeld dat uiteindelijk gelijk zal zijn voor iedereen, is dan uiteindelijk ruimte voor ander motoren bouwers om toetetreden. Zal die kosten niet te veel moeten maken met hybride systemen.

      • + 0
      • 13 sep 2019 - 18:26
  • Gelijk heeft hij, je kan er in door schieten ... Bepaalde zaken kan je prima standaardiseren, mooiste voorbeeld van standaardisatie zijn de banden maar ook remsystemen zal wel lukken ... Maar ik denk dat je moet uitkijken om voor heel specifieke onderdelen ,bijvoorbeeld voor de PU ,, er geen grote eenheidsworst van te maken , dan haal je het DNA uit de F1 ,en wat is dan de volgende stap? Allemaal preciesdezelfde PU ? Nee, ben blij dat ze , Ferrari,, zeer kritische kijken naar de voorstellen van de Fia ..
    .

    • + 4
    • 13 sep 2019 - 16:32
  • verfuktf1

    Posts: 511

    Je ziet zo wel aan de foto dat ie weinig ziet.

    • + 0
    • 13 sep 2019 - 20:14

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