Todt nog niet geheel tevreden: "Sta perplex bij VT2 in dit format"

  • Gepubliceerd op 15 sep 2021 08:33
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  • Door: Bob Plaizier

Het nieuwe experimentele sprintkwalificatie format is voor veel mensen nog even wennen. Ook is niet iedereen even groot fan van het format. Het is immers een proefballontje en of men door gaat in 2022 met sprintkwalificaties staat nog niet vast.

Het is in ieder geval wennen. Op de vrijdag is er maar één vrije training met daarna de kwalificatie en op zaterdag is er eerst een vrije training en dan de sprintkwalificatie. Het is een redelijk verwarrend format en ook FIA-bons Jean Todt denkt er het zijne van. In gesprek met de Italiaanse tak van Motorsport.com kijkt hij terug op afgelopen weekend: "Bij dit format sta ik een beetje perplex over wat er zaterdag tussen twaalf en een gebeurt. "

Todt is overduidelijk geen fan van deze zaterdagse training: "De vrije training van een uur valt niet te begrijpen, niet door het publiek en ook niet door de media. Het is alleen interessant voor de teams om data te verzamelen. Wat betreft de show is het zinloos." Maar de Formule 1 is een sport waar de data nou eenmaal een belangrijk onderdeel van is. De sprintkwalificatie is juist bedacht om de show te verbeteren. Het is de vraag op wat voor manier er aan het format zal worden geknutseld in de toekomst. 

Nu is het alleen nog maar de VT2 die niet deugt?
Na Silverstone vond meneer Todt het hele sprint weekend niet deugen.
Heb nog maar weinig reacties gelezen van mensen die dit format goed vinden,
maar Ross Brawn vindt het ge-wel-dig, ook de fans zegt hij. 🤦🏼‍♂️ 🤥

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  • 15 sep 2021 - 08:47

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  • Nu is het alleen nog maar de VT2 die niet deugt?
    Na Silverstone vond meneer Todt het hele sprint weekend niet deugen.
    Heb nog maar weinig reacties gelezen van mensen die dit format goed vinden,
    maar Ross Brawn vindt het ge-wel-dig, ook de fans zegt hij. 🤦🏼‍♂️ 🤥

    • + 4
    • 15 sep 2021 - 08:47
    • Het is vaker zo dat de schreuwige minderheid geen goed beeld geeft over de daadwerkelijke verhoudingen 😉(zie uitslag verkiezingen, invulling zwarte Piet etc.).
      Het format dient hier en daar wel bijgesluiteld te worden.
      Ik ben wel voorstander.

      • + 1
      • 15 sep 2021 - 09:55
    • Ach beter een sprintrace dan een training.
      Maar de spanning van de 'kwali' voor de sprintrace is dan weer minder dan een 'kwali' voor de gewone race. En dat vind ik tot nu toe ook van de sprintrace zelf. Die is minder spannend dan de gewone 'kwali'. Alleen de start van de sprintrace geeft dan wat extra. En dat zag je bij Lewis afgelopen weekend

      Wat mij betreft kunnen ze het wel afwisselen zoals nu. Maar ik zou dan bij de sprintrace ook punten geven voor de eerste 10 en dan gewoon van 10 tot 1. Dan heb je voor de achterhoede teams ook meteen weer een kans om punten te scoren omdat juist over grote afstand deze vaak helemaal kansloos zijn terwijl bij een korte race ze nog wel met een goede start kans maken om in de buurt van de top 10 te komen en wat harder verdedigen zin heeft omdat het dan niet meteen je heke race verpest.

      • + 0
      • 15 sep 2021 - 10:41
    • Normaal gesproken wordt een GP weekend opgebouwd. Zaken aftasten in VT1, betere afstelling in Vt2 plus longruns. In VT3 kun je dan al zien hoe de verhoudingen liggen, kwali tijden oefenen en dan ;s middags de spannende kwalificatie, vaak spannender dan de race.

      En nu? Alleen een uurtje VT1, waarin de meesten de setup nog niet voor elkaar hebben.
      Vlak voor de "kwalificatie" de wagens al in Parc Fermé, dus er mag niets meer aan de setup veranderd worden.
      Een kwalificatie die niet belangrijk is, want die geldt niet voor de hoofdrace.
      Een oersaaie VT2 op zaterdagmorgen en vervolgens een korte race, die de startgrid moet bepalen.
      Totaal geen opbouw en spanning meer in het weekend. En dat moet volgend seizoen minstens 7 keer gebeuren? Bah!

      • + 1
      • 15 sep 2021 - 12:12
    • Dat is jouw mening, ik deel deze niet. Ook al was het niet heel enerverend, toch heb ik een extra leuke start gezien buiten die van de hoofdrace en een paar inhaalacties. Voor mij veel beter dan zo'n saaie (en voor mij als kijker) nietszeggende vrije training. Ik run geen team, dus hoe ze data vergaren en hoe Parc Ferme regels gaan interesseert mij werkelijk niks. Actie wil ik zien en niet alleen rondjes rijden zonder dat het ergens over gaat. 7 is ongeveer 1/3 van een seizoen, laat maar komen!

      • + 0
      • 15 sep 2021 - 12:40
    • 110% eens met @Pietje.
      En inderdaad, Brawn blijft net zolang roeptoeteren dat de fans (etc.) het fantastisch vinden totdat het er doorheen is gedrukt, zonder dat degelijk te hebben onderzocht.

      Wat Todt nu over vt2 zegt heb ik en anderen al dikwijls gemeld op het forum.
      Parc Fermé pas na de sprintrace sluiten zou wat dat betreft oplossing kunnen bieden.

      • + 0
      • 15 sep 2021 - 16:24
  • Hadden ze op voorhand kunnen bedenken.. parc ferme regels na quali op vrijdag is ook te vroeg

    • + 0
    • 15 sep 2021 - 09:04
  • Numnum

    Posts: 4.863

    Mwoah

    • + 0
    • 15 sep 2021 - 09:13
  • Pssst Todt;
    Just stop it!

    • + 0
    • 15 sep 2021 - 09:14
  • Houwimmie

    Posts: 549

    ik vind het een fantastisch gegeven.
    Als Todt een probleem heeft met VT2 op zaterdag, na de kwalificatie, dan draait hij die toch gewoon om?
    - vrijdag: VT1 + VT2
    - zaterdag: Sprint
    - zondag: race

    • + 0
    • 15 sep 2021 - 09:25
    • Houwimmie

      Posts: 549

      de kwali nog vergeten:
      - vrijdag: VT1 + VT2
      - zaterdag: Kwalificatie + Sprint
      - zondag: race

      • + 0
      • 15 sep 2021 - 09:25
    • Maar dan los je het echte "probleem" niet op. Namelijk, hoe kunnen we voor de vrijdag ook geld vangen.

      • + 0
      • 15 sep 2021 - 12:46
  • vosje1991

    Posts: 413

    Ik vind het hele format niks. De "normale" kwalificatie vind ik vele malen spannender dan zo'n sprintrace.
    Veel F1 races worden beslist met de pitstops. Bij een sprintkwalificatie valt dat allemaal weg en zit je vaak naar een saaie optocht te kijken.

    • + 2
    • 15 sep 2021 - 09:34
    • Houwimmie

      Posts: 549

      Dan heb jij in SIlverstone toch een hele andere sprint race gezien dan ik.

      • + 0
      • 15 sep 2021 - 09:38
    • Sun-Tzu

      Posts: 3.385

      Geheel mee eens Vosje.

      @Houwimmie, in Silverstone waren er in de eerste ronden wat positiewisselingen en een Perez die spinde. Daarna gebeurde er ronden langs vrij weinig tot niets... Ook ik zie dan eerder een saaie optocht dan een spannende race.

      Wat mij betreft weer terug naar hoe het was. De kwalificatie is perfect, VT3 is juist prachtig omdat men daar echt bezig is met de kwalificatie afstelling. VT2 en VT1 op de vrijdag waren juist ideaal vanwege de lengte van deze trainingen. Veel tracktime om langs de baan van te genieten. Heb je bijvoorbeeld bronskaarten op Spa, dan is de vrijdag ideaal om veel verschillende delen van de baan te bezoeken en de actie dus op verschillende delen van de baan te bekijken. Voor mij een absolute meerwaarde.

      • + 0
      • 15 sep 2021 - 15:08
  • 2 sprintformat weekenden achter de rug en ik blijf bij mijn standpunt dat ik het niks vind.

    De sprintrace an sich is best vermakelijk, maar eigenlijk meer van hetzelfde van wat we op zondag al zien. VT2 is inderdaad, op wat data verzamelen na, volstrekt zinloos geworden. Het uitdelen van punten aan uitluitend de top 3 zorgt voor een nog grotere kloof tussen de topteams en de rest.

    Feitelijk is het sprintformat niets meer dan een 100km verlenging van de hoofdrace met een 24uur durende rode vlag.

    • + 4
    • 15 sep 2021 - 10:06
  • Beamer

    Posts: 1.508

    De enige spanning bij de sprint race zit bij de start en daarna is het optochtje rijden. Met een beetje mazzel zou je een plekje kunnen winnen, maar het risico om (veel) plaatsen te verliezen is vele malen groter. Dus blijven ze maar zitten waar ze zitten.
    Je kunt de sprint race dan ook net zo goed over 2 ronden doen en dan de startopstelling besparen. Scheelt weer in de kosten.
    Voor mij is de kwalificatie het ultieme rondje zien te vinden en de beloning is je startplaats. De race gaat dan om de punten.

    • + 0
    • 15 sep 2021 - 10:36
  • Mirani

    Posts: 3.056

    Het probleem is niet de sprintrace, het probleem is het dat je niet kan inhalen met deze auto’s. Wie weet denken we volgend jaar met de nieuwe auto’s er anders over want nu kan je alleen bij de start iets doen en verder niks meer.

    Aan de andere kant, met het normale format had Ricciardo nooit gewonnen en daarmee is dat toch een pluspunt voor de sprintrace. (Als je zou kunnen inhalen had Ricciardo ook niet gewonnen)

    • + 0
    • 15 sep 2021 - 11:06
  • Sprintrace met verplichte pitstop zou denk ik al veel veranderen. Dan wordt het echt tactisch. Omdat je niet moet pitten voor je banden.

    Eventueel 1 vrije training die langer duurt en dan zaterdags sprint. Zo kan het ook een 2 daags event worden

    • + 0
    • 15 sep 2021 - 11:31
  • maroonie

    Posts: 7

    Heb maar een probleem met die sprint race en dat als je er uit gedonderd word door een ander gelijk heel je weekend vernaggeld is. Stel er gebeurd zoals iets in Hongarije dan ben je en een moter kwijt je start achteraan compleet weekend naar de filistijnen

    • + 0
    • 15 sep 2021 - 12:08
  • Oh, het wordt nog leuker! Las net dit:

    How else do you want to change F1?

    Domenicali: "We think - only one example - about a Grand Slam,
    an additional title like in tennis: who wins the Sprint title
    & the championship title is Grand Slam winner.
    F1 needs change & must be interesting for the young audience"

    Domenicali: "I would like to keep the F1 calendar at 23 races.
    We have inquiries from Africa, we are talking to South & North Africa,
    + one or two races in the Far East, such as Korea.
    I can imagine a third of the races in Europe, the others spread around the world.
    No race in Germany."

    "We're doing three sprint races this year. In addition to Silverstone and Monza,
    there's also Brazil. The reactions, the tension, the rhythm are good.
    We are currently rethinking the format, but I can imagine that we will have
    seven sprint races!"

    • + 0
    • 15 sep 2021 - 12:31
    • 7 sprintraces? Are you nuts?!

      • + 0
      • 15 sep 2021 - 13:58
    • Ikke niet, maar hij wel en goed ook!!

      • + 0
      • 15 sep 2021 - 13:59
    • ;)

      • + 0
      • 15 sep 2021 - 14:17
    • Domenicali En Brawn moeten eens zeer kritisch ondervraagd worden door doorgewinterde onderzoeksjournalisten over hoe zij erbij komen dat die sprintraces een succes zijn.
      En daarbij moet het duo ook kloppende cijfers overhandigen, zodat het niet bij blablablabla kan blijven!

      • + 0
      • 15 sep 2021 - 16:37

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