Red Bull in Sotsji weer verslagen bij pitstops

  • Gepubliceerd op 28 sep 2021 15:26
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  • Door: Bob Plaizier

Een opvallend moment in Rusland: Red Bull had niet de snelste pitstop. Voor heen was het team van Max Verstappen een ware winnaar op het gebied van het wisselen van de banden maar sinds de nieuwe pitstopregels lijkt het helemaal anders. In Sotsji werd de Oostenrijkse formatie voor de tweede keer verslagen.

Aan de Russische kust werd het Red Bull bij de stops verslagen door hun concurrent Mercedes. Valtteri Bottas wisselde van banden in slechts 2,45 seconden om later nog een keertje het rubber te laten vervangen in 2,51 seconden. AlphaTauri was ook nog eens sneller dan Red Bull. 

Ook in Monza was Red Bull niet de snelste, daar werden ze verslagen door McLaren. In het klassement op de Fastest Pitstop Award gaat Red Bull nog wel aan de leiding. Maar het is wel een opvallend feit dat Red Bull sinds de nieuwe pitstopregels meer moeite lijkt te hebben met de stops.

Moondust

Posts: 728

Ik vind het ook echt een slechte zaak dat halverwege het seizoen de regels worden aangepast. Je kan natuurlijk zeggen dat het erom gaat wie zich het beste en sneleste aanpast maar netjes is het niet. RBR heeft veel geinvesteerd in de pitstops op de oude manier en die investering zijn ze grotendee... [Lees verder]

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  • 28 sep 2021 - 16:24

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  • Bedankt Mercedes...

    • + 7
    • 28 sep 2021 - 15:36
  • Ze kunnen er niks van bij Red Bull.

    • + 0
    • 28 sep 2021 - 15:37
  • een knopje indrukken als je klaar bent zou toch minder problemen moeten opleveren.
    Zeker geen seconde hoeven duren.

    • + 0
    • 28 sep 2021 - 15:42
    • Beri

      Posts: 6.186

      Gewoon als bij een arcadekast blijven rammen op die knop

      • + 0
      • 28 sep 2021 - 17:10
  • Waar waren afgelopen race de pitstop tijden?

    • + 2
    • 28 sep 2021 - 15:51
    • Rechtsonder in beeld, zoals altijd.
      Zelfs een pop-up met fastest pitstop, al doet die er sinds de invoering van de nieuwe beperkingen er eigenlijk niet meer toe.

      • + 0
      • 28 sep 2021 - 18:37
  • Nico31

    Posts: 285

    Ik vraag me echt af wat er gebeurt is sinds die nieuwe spot regel.. dit is nu eens pure kloterij ofwel kan RB er helemaal niks meer van, iemand die me kan helpen?

    • + 0
    • 28 sep 2021 - 16:17
  • Moondust

    Posts: 728

    Ik vind het ook echt een slechte zaak dat halverwege het seizoen de regels worden aangepast. Je kan natuurlijk zeggen dat het erom gaat wie zich het beste en sneleste aanpast maar netjes is het niet. RBR heeft veel geinvesteerd in de pitstops op de oude manier en die investering zijn ze grotendeels kwijt doordat de regelgever besluit de regels te wijzigen. Ik vind het erg irritant dat dit in de F1 aan de lopende band gebeurt. Flikker op met die regelwijzigingen telkens!

    • + 11
    • 28 sep 2021 - 16:24
    • 100% mee eens !!!

      • + 3
      • 28 sep 2021 - 16:36
    • Honderdduizendmiljoenmiljard % mee eens!!!

      • + 0
      • 28 sep 2021 - 18:38
    • Pitcrew

      Posts: 376

      Ik ben het voor 50 % met jullie eens
      Voor de andere 50% vind ik dat jullie gelijk hebben

      • + 1
      • 28 sep 2021 - 19:38
    • Geldt die regel alleen voor RBR dan? ...


      Zo ...

      • + 0
      • 28 sep 2021 - 20:00
  • Die nieuwe regels gaan ook nergens over, een pitstop hoort gewoon zo snel mogelijk te worden gemaakt. Dat stukje F1 DNA is nu volledig weg, doodzonde!

    • + 4
    • 28 sep 2021 - 16:32
    • En ze tanken niet eens meer....

      • + 0
      • 28 sep 2021 - 16:43
  • Regels hoor je idd niet tussentijds aan te passen, FIA laat teveel haar oren hangen naar Mercedes, zeer slechte zaak !!!!!!

    • + 3
    • 28 sep 2021 - 16:35
  • mordor

    Posts: 1.829

    Weer zo. 'n debiele FIA actie. Nutteloos. Gauw weer afschaffen.

    • + 2
    • 28 sep 2021 - 16:54
  • Dit is al bij meerdere teams voorgevallen dat dit niet goed werkt en de lamp rood blijft aangeven.Denk dat er sinds dit nieuw systeem al bij veel teams tragere pitstops zijn geweest dan het zou moeten.

    Snap overigens niet waarom ze dit aangepast hebben er zijn in het verleden bijna geen enkele keer een gevaarlijke situatie door gekomen zie nu met dit systeem meerdere zeer trage pitstops.

    • + 0
    • 28 sep 2021 - 20:24
  • Sander

    Posts: 602

    En bij de pitstop van Perez is een monteur gewond geraakt. Nu kwam dat ook doordat Pereze de koppeling wat op liet komen. Zijn fout dus, maar dat soort ongelukken ga je wel krijgen wanneer door de nieuwe regelementen pitstops onverwacht extreem lang kunnen duren.

    • + 0
    • 29 sep 2021 - 06:12
    • Precies dat, buiten dat het voor irritaties leid zorgt het ervoor dat alles weer oneerlijk lijkt te gaan, het valt mij namelijk op dat net nu Mercedes ineens de snellere pitstops heeft terwijl dat eerst andersom was.
      Zou dit trucje op dezelfde manier geregeld zijn als toen bij de invoer van de hybride motor ? Ik bedoel dat Mercedes toen voorkennis had en al lang ontwikkeling en onderzoek deed voor dat het ingevoerd werd.
      Bij Red Bull lijkt het elke keer fout te gaan door die nieuwe software die nu alles regelt, als een monteur sneller klaar is dan die ingebouwde vertraging kan hij wel op dat knopje drukken maar dan registreert die niets en krijgt de coureur geen groen licht. Dan moeten ze uitzoeken welke monteur dat geweest is en die moet dan de wielsleutel weer op het wiel zetten even aandraaien en dan weer op die knop drukker voordat zijn wiel het groene licht krijgt.
      Ik vind dit probeersel van de FIA een regelrechte aanfluiting welke riekt naar competitie-vervalsing .
      Even voor de mensen die stellen dat het voor iedereen gelijk is , dat is het dus niet! Bij RBR hebben ze jaren zwaar getraind en geoefend om dit zo snel mogelijk voor elkaar te krijgen en nu moeten ze dat afleren en op een tragere manier gaan werken, iets afleren is veel moeilijker dan iets leren, de andere teams kregen het nooit goed voor elkaar vooral Mercedes was er slecht in, en nu ineens zijn ze het snelste ??? Dit is ingevoerd onder de noemer veiligheid, die was bij Red Bull het veiligste, NEE, dit is ingevoerd omdat Mercedes elke keer een paar seconden kwijtraakten bij de pitstops, en is het nu veiliger ??? weer NEE ! Ham rijd z'n jackman gewoon een paar meter achteruit tegen de grond en er gebeurd niets ??
      Door die wijziging is er al 1 crash gekomen, Monza was nooit gebeurd als de pitstops niet gewijzigd waren, dan had Max ruim 10 sec voor Ham op de baan gereden + de 4 sec van Ham z'n pitstop.

      • + 0
      • 29 sep 2021 - 10:21

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