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Horner kritisch op motorregels: "Uiteindelijk gebruikt iedereen er toch vier"

Horner kritisch op motorregels: "Uiteindelijk gebruikt iedereen er toch vier"

  • Gepubliceerd op 28 okt 2021 16:19
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  • Door: Bob Plaizier

Bijna bij elke Grand Prix krijgt er wel een coureur een gridstraf door een motorwissel. Als een coureur teveel motoren gebruikt betekent dat immers een straf. Langzamerhand beginnen teams in te calculeren dat het erbij hoort. Maar Red Bull-teambaas Christian Horner is er nog steeds geen fan van.

De teams beginnen de motorstraffen steeds meer tactisch toe te passen. Op die manier spelen ze dan ook een belangrijke rol in de strijd om het wereldkampioenschap. Max Verstappen pakte zijn straf in Rusland er reed alsnog naar het podium. Zijn rivaal Lewis Hamilton kreeg een nieuwe motor in Turkije en pakte daar dus zijn straf.

Horner heeft het wel gehad met de motorregelgeving. Tegenover Formel1.de spreekt hij zich uit: "Ik begrijp dat niet. Ik ben nooit fan geweest van twee of drie motoren in één seizoen gebruiken. Uiteindelijk gebruikt iedereen er toch vier. Daar moeten we rekening mee houden voor in de toekomst."

Mag Verslappen

Posts: 2.647

Vier? Zeg dat maar tegen Bottas..

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  • 28 okt 2021 - 16:21
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  • Mag Verslappen

    Posts: 2.647

    Vier? Zeg dat maar tegen Bottas..

    • + 3
    • 28 okt 2021 - 16:21
    • AUDI_F1

      Posts: 2.497

      Hoop dat Hamilton dat ook nog te wachten staat.

      • + 1
      • 28 okt 2021 - 18:38
  • CBR600F

    Posts: 956

    Ik kan mij ook niet voorstellen dat het er volgend jaar nog steeds maar 3 mogen zijn, met een ruime verdubbeling van het aantal sprintraces. 4 zou het minimum moeten zijn.

    • + 1
    • 28 okt 2021 - 16:21
  • snailer

    Posts: 21.071

    Uiteindelijk maakt het niet uit dan. Als ze allemaal er 4 gebruiken, dan krijgen ze allemaal een straf.

    • + 0
    • 28 okt 2021 - 16:32
    • ROYALERE

      Posts: 24.398

      Klopt, weg met die straffen. 6 zou ik doen, dan hebben we die onzin waarschijnlijk niet meer de komende 4 jaar. Het slaat helemaal nergens op. elke motor is nu wel betrouwbaar maar door schuld van anderen of door dat ding vol open te gooien gebruik je er nu meer. Gewoon 6 dus. gaat waarschijnlijk iedereen het wel mee redden en dan kan je een beetje spelen wanneer je een nieuwe in zet.

      • + 0
      • 28 okt 2021 - 16:37
    • koppie toe

      Posts: 2.919

      Met de vaak vrije keus op welk circuit te doen. Mercedes maakt er in mijn ogen sws misbruik van. Maar ja bij 4 roept Horner misschien wel we willen er 5, en zo blijf je bezig. ;-)

      • + 0
      • 28 okt 2021 - 16:39
    • Metzeler

      Posts: 294

      Ik vind dat Horner wel een punt heeft, nu is er weer een tactisch item bijgekomen die een uitslag kan bepalen. Het zijn er al zoveel waar rekening mee gehouden moet worden.

      • + 0
      • 28 okt 2021 - 17:16
    • M@ximumOverdrive

      Posts: 6.934

      @roy

      Met 6 motoren ga je wel heel erg de zaak op kosten jagen

      • + 0
      • 28 okt 2021 - 17:19
    • ROYALERE

      Posts: 24.398

      die worden sowieso wel gemaakt hoor, ik denk dat ze er wel 10 hebben klaarliggen.

      • + 0
      • 28 okt 2021 - 17:58
    • schwantz34

      Posts: 36.095

      @M@x Het toestaan voor het gebruiken van meer dan 3 motoren (+ alle pu onderdelen die eraan hangen) zal juist geld besparen. Het kost juist klauwen met geld extra, om al die dingen zo betrouwbaar mogelijk te maken.

      • + 2
      • 28 okt 2021 - 18:28
    • JM_K

      Posts: 1.065

      3 voor 22 race is echt zo krap.. vroeger gebruikten ze zelfs een kwalificatie motor dus kon je er wel 3 of 4 per weekend gebruiken en een T-car.
      Dat is wel een beetje overdreven aan de andere kant waren de motoren natuurlijk veel goedkoper.


      @Koppige Koe .. je opmerking over MB kan ik niet plaatsen. Hoezo maken zij er misbruik van?

      • + 0
      • 29 okt 2021 - 08:04
    • koppie toe

      Posts: 2.919

      JM_K omdat ik niet geloof dat die motoren van Bottas iets mankeren.

      • + 0
      • 29 okt 2021 - 09:19
    • Arie54

      Posts: 4.960

      @koppie toe: En Red Bull maakt er geen misbruik van? Kom op zeg, Horner zegt het zelf al, de 'straffen ' worden tactisch ingezet.

      • + 0
      • 29 okt 2021 - 11:05
    • gridiron

      Posts: 1.194

      Kunnen ze daar geen gentlemen's agreement over maken tussen de team's, iedereen gebruikt 5 motoren per jaar. Als ze allemaal dezelfde straf krijgen is de score gelijk.

      • + 0
      • 29 okt 2021 - 12:17
  • flyineddy

    Posts: 3.595

    Vanaf volgend jaar worden de motoren voor een paar jaar 'bevroren'. Dat lijkt mij een mooi moment om ook het toegestane aantal motoren in een seizoen uit te breiden naar 4 of 5. Dan hoeven de teams zich minder zorgen te maken over eventuele straffen en kan er gewoon lekker geracet worden.

    Eddy.

    • + 0
    • 28 okt 2021 - 17:48
    • Patrace

      Posts: 4.008

      Dat lost weinig op, vrees ik. Als ze meer motoren tot hun beschikking hebben, schroeven die gewoon wat verder open en ook dan komen ze uiteindelijk motoren tekort. Dus ook dan zal men waar mogelijk de motorstand terugschroeven om de motor te sparen. Het enige verschil is dat er gemiddeld over de races iets meer vermogen beschikbaar zal zijn, maar daar merk je als kijker helemaal niets van, behalve snellere rondetijden.

      Dat is nu eenmaal de F1, men gaat altijd tot de limiet. Dus rek je die limiet op dan gaat men doodleuk tot de grenzen binnen die nieuwe limiet.

      • + 3
      • 28 okt 2021 - 21:26
    • gridiron

      Posts: 1.194

      Was er geen sprake dat de FIA vond dat 3 nog steeds teveel was.

      • + 0
      • 29 okt 2021 - 12:18
  • HarryLam

    Posts: 3.669

    Zinloze regel.......je kunt goedkoper 100 weggooi motoren produceren dan de ontwikkelingskosten van deze onnodige technologie ophoesten waarbij ook de benodige betrouwbaarheids kosten nog komen.

    • + 2
    • 28 okt 2021 - 18:46
    • schwantz34

      Posts: 36.095

      Exact, de huidige PU regels zijn zo lam als een tientje.

      • + 0
      • 28 okt 2021 - 19:40
  • da_bartman

    Posts: 4.569

    Het is toch ook van de zotte, dat je voor je 5e en 6e ice maar de helft van de gridstraf krijgt. Als je toch gridstraffen wilt geven om het aantal motorwn te beperken zou ik eerder aan een oplopende schaal denken.

    • + 0
    • 28 okt 2021 - 19:01
    • Mugello

      Posts: 1.228

      Je wordt beloond door eigen falen op deze manier.

      3 motoren per seizoen. Gebruik je steeds meer, zwaarder straffen.

      • + 0
      • 28 okt 2021 - 21:26
    • MauritsvdT

      Posts: 603

      @Mugello
      En als je dan moet wisselen doordat een andere coureur je halve achterkant er af gereden heeft en daardoor je motor alleen nog maar schrootwaarde heeft?
      Gebeurd niet heel vaak, maar een coureur zou tijdens een seizoen bij meerdere startcrashes betrokken kunnen raken geheel buiten zijn schuld om.
      Om op die manier dan ook per motor hogere straffen te gaan geven heeft dan wel een heel negatief effect voor die coureur.

      • + 0
      • 29 okt 2021 - 09:10
    • Mugello

      Posts: 1.228

      Terecht punt.
      Dan houd je het op 10 plaatsen. Maar sowieso niet minder, omdat misbruik in de hand wordt gewerkt.

      • + 0
      • 29 okt 2021 - 10:17
  • Raikanikook

    Posts: 2.364

    Door dat ding open te gooien gaat ie heus niet sneller kapot.
    Integendeel denk aan de 103 procent regel . Ze zouden in principe nog sneller kunnen. Maar dan ga je ze 3 keer moeten dubbelen als Lewis en max zijnde . Gelukkig gaan we in 2022 als het van corôna afhangt , een veel dichter midden veld en een team of 3 .4 Dat voor de dag prijs mee kan vechten zien . Dan gaat het niet zozeer over Lewis en max en de onnodige fouten en verklaringen van van de betrokken teams. Ieder team slijt toch evenveel motoren .Kan me niet herinneren dat een team zo onbetrouwbaar was dat ze meermaals een motorwissel teveel moesten toepassen

    • + 0
    • 29 okt 2021 - 01:12
    • Raikanikook

      Posts: 2.364

      Arrows ? Die Japanse was het super Aguri?

      • + 0
      • 29 okt 2021 - 01:14
    • Modest71

      Posts: 3.740

      Lol, die tijd dat een motor ineens harder ging, net voor een plof.

      • + 0
      • 29 okt 2021 - 12:10
    • gridiron

      Posts: 1.194

      Waar is de tijd van een mooi rookwolken en steekvlammen.

      • + 0
      • 29 okt 2021 - 12:21
  • gridiron

    Posts: 1.194

    Trek gewoon als ze meer dan 3 motoren een theoretische kostprijs van 10 miljoen af van hun prijzengeld of het budget voor volgend jaar.

    • + 0
    • 29 okt 2021 - 12:14

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