Verstappen mysterieus over gridstraffen: "Lastig om te zeggen"

  • Gepubliceerd op 08 sep 2022 17:19
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  • Door: Bob Plaizier

Het aankomende Grand Prix-weekend in Italië zal wederom in het teken staan van gridstraffen. Meerdere coureurs waaronder Lewis Hamilton zullen dit weekend veel motoronderdelen wisselen. Max Verstappen deed twee weken geleden in België hetzelfde, de kans is aanwezig dat hij dit weekend weer een gridstraf krijgt.

Verstappen wisselde in het verleden wel vaker van motor in Monza. Een gridstraf op het iconische circuit is ook niets vreemds, vrijwel elk seizoen wisselt een coureur motorcomponenten waardoor hij achteraan moet starten. Verstappen heeft dit seizoen een goede kans op een zege in Monza maar de Nederlander en zijn team Red Bull hebben nog geen keuze gemaakt.

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Vandaag was Verstappen er dan ook vrij duidelijk over. Hij ziet dat er het een en ander is veranderd bij Red Bull op het gebied van de performance. Tegenover de internationale media was hij duidelijk: "In het verleden zijn we altijd te langzaam geweest op de rechte stukken. Je wist al voordat je hier aankwam dat het geen goed weekend zou worden. We hadden soms ook wat technische problemen en daardoor moesten we ook gridstraffen incasseren. Je wist dan al dat het nooit geweldig zou worden."

Gridstraf

Dit jaar is alles echter anders en presteert Red Bull zelfs heel erg sterk op high speed-circuits. Een gridstraf is dan ook minder schadelijk voor het resultaat van het team. Verstappen wilde er in Monza niet al te diep op in gaan en bleef zeer mysterieus: "Door onze rechtelijnsnelheid kan het echt een compleet ander weekend worden. We gaan nog wel zien of we een gridstraf gaan krijgen. Op dit moment is dat lastig te zeggen."

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Als ik echt oprecht en eerlijk moet zijn in mijn nederige mening, en natuurlijk zonder iemand te beledigen die een andere mening erop nahoudt dan die van mij, maar ook door vanuit een ander perspectief deze context te bekijken zonder iemand in dit geval te veroordelen of kijk op de situatie te be... [Lees verder]

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  • 8 sep 2022 - 22:56

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  • Als hij met volledige nieuwe onderdelen het seizoen uit kan rijden ( en dus met de in België gepakte onderdelen) dan zou ik ze zeker hier pakken.
    Hij zou dan nog gewoon kunnen winnen.
    .

    • + 0
    • 8 sep 2022 - 17:31
    • Snork

      Posts: 18.653

      Als ik echt oprecht en eerlijk moet zijn in mijn nederige mening, en natuurlijk zonder iemand te beledigen die een andere mening erop nahoudt dan die van mij, maar ook door vanuit een ander perspectief deze context te bekijken zonder iemand in dit geval te veroordelen of kijk op de situatie te bekritiseren, en dat te doen door objectief te zijn, en rekening houdend dat elke mening een mening is die geldt en er mag zijn, zonder dat het stuitend is, kan ik oprecht en met volle overtuiging zeggen dat ik helemaal vergeten ben wat ik wilde zeggen.

      • + 16
      • 8 sep 2022 - 22:56
    • MWHT

      Posts: 4.007

      Maar ik voel mij hierdoor nu wel gekwetst.....

      • + 4
      • 8 sep 2022 - 23:29
    • Cicero

      Posts: 1.281

      Ridertje is het woordje "niet" vergeten (en die NIET met de in België...)

      Ik denk dat ze alleen wisselen als ze zien dat ze een voorsprong hebben zoals in spa. En die kans zit er wel in

      • + 0
      • 9 sep 2022 - 08:11
    • Snork

      Posts: 18.653

      MWHT, dat snap ik. Ik was ook wel een beetje onvoorzichtig in mijn reactie.
      Mijn nederige excuses :-)

      • + 0
      • 9 sep 2022 - 12:05
  • Kan mij niet voorstellen dat hij nog gridstraffen moet pakken. Hij heeft 2 nieuwe motoren dus dat moet wel lukken. Hij kan dit weekend weer winnen en dat wil je niet laten lopen.

    • + 8
    • 8 sep 2022 - 17:36
    • Tja: stel je heerst vrijdag, waarom niet? je kan dan met een raket zondag iedereen pakken.

      • + 1
      • 8 sep 2022 - 18:11
    • Dat kan ook zonder gridstraffen

      • + 2
      • 8 sep 2022 - 18:43
    • Maximo

      Posts: 8.733

      Denk dat gelijk hebt Royalere

      Ze gaan eerst ff kijken hoe iedereen het morgen doet in 2 FP’s.

      Liggen ze ver voor dan gaan ze voor een Spa’tje en anders kunnen ze na Singapore bij alle daaropvolgende indien nodig nog een wissel doen, na Singapore is het overal eenvoudig inhalen.

      • + 1
      • 8 sep 2022 - 18:46
    • Het zou wel de ultieme vernedering van Ferrari zijn — in eigen huis — als hij achteraan start en met twintig seconden voorsprong wint.

      • + 0
      • 9 sep 2022 - 00:48
    • tja, Max zal niet in de mate van Spa heersen. Daar moesten de auto's vanwege Eau Rouge echt wel meer omhoog dan komend weekend op Monza. Em zo denkt Max zelf dus over het inhalen op Monza: Ondanks dat de layout van Autodromo Nazionale di Monza doet vermoeden, is inhalen lastiger dan het in eerste instantie lijkt. Max: “Vorig jaar was het bijna onmogelijk voor me om concurrenten voorbij te komen vanwege de topsnelheid van anderen. Het ligt er dus ook aan hoe je auto is. Je kunt hier je auto afstellen op een hoge topsnelheid of meer voor het bochtenwerk. Met de huidige auto’s zal inhalen waarschijnlijk iets makkelijker gaan, maar als je in een DRS-trein zit, kun je weinig uitrichten. De lay-out zorgt ervoor dat inhalen niet makkelijk is.”

      • + 2
      • 9 sep 2022 - 08:33
  • Lekker hier punten pakken en op Suzuka samen met Honda je kampioensfeest vieren.

    • + 7
    • 8 sep 2022 - 17:40
    • Dat is dan ook een belangrijke reden, wk in Japan ivm eventuele terugkeer Honda in 2026

      • + 0
      • 8 sep 2022 - 20:14
    • ringo

      Posts: 3.629

      als honda terug komt hoor je het pas in 2026, want honda is een gevestigde fabrikant... RBpt niet dus hebben ze budget voordeel en motortest voordeel.

      • + 0
      • 9 sep 2022 - 02:38
  • Gewoon geen gridstraffen pakken totdat het echt nodig is. Eerst zsm kampioenschap binnenslepen en dan zien we wel verder. Monza zonder gridstraf is bijna 100% zekere overwinning.

    • + 15
    • 8 sep 2022 - 17:47
    • Idd en qls bride kampioenschapp3n binnen zijn is gaan experimenteren wat dat blok echt kan en waar de grens ligt door hem wat verder open te schroeven.

      Motoren vallen toch buiten de budgetcap

      • + 0
      • 8 sep 2022 - 18:53
    • Mexico kan je ook wel inhalen. Gewoon in Mexico doen ofzo.

      • + 1
      • 8 sep 2022 - 20:47
    • Inderdaad Tyla. Ik zou het trouwens tof vinden als Peréz de kans geboden wordt om zijn homegrandprix te winnen. Leuk voor Mexico.

      • + 2
      • 8 sep 2022 - 22:44
    • Op COTA valt er prima in te halen.

      • + 0
      • 9 sep 2022 - 08:35
  • Als het niet nodig is, zou ik ook geen nieuwe
    motor(onderdelen) etc pakken, puur een statement maken, zo van zie, t kan wel binnen de regels

    • + 1
    • 8 sep 2022 - 17:47
    • Breng die FIA niet op ideeën alsjeblieft.

      • + 1
      • 8 sep 2022 - 18:11
    • Box box box... dat zou leuk zijn geweest als ze niet al de regel max hadden overstegen met de wissel van Spa. 4/3 motoren is net zon slecht statement als 5/3 motoren.

      • + 1
      • 8 sep 2022 - 20:49
  • Met 2 seconden per ronde sneller moet het wel goed komen lijkt me.

    • + 0
    • 8 sep 2022 - 18:37
    • Vade

      Posts: 3.586

      Ja want Monza is net zo lang als Spa🤦

      Blijf beter op de camping bbq'en🏕️

      • + 14
      • 8 sep 2022 - 19:58
  • Monza is wel een circuit waar de motoren het langste met het maximaal aantal toeren draaien. Dus valt er iets te zeggen van een verse motor. Wat punten laten liggen is geen probleem.

    • + 0
    • 8 sep 2022 - 18:57
    • nelism

      Posts: 416

      Snelrondje jij ziet dat goed ze hebben een motor waar 3 races en een motor met
      2 races en nu een nieuwe motor pakken in Monza + versnellingbak
      dat kan je de 7 races probleem loos afwerken

      • + 0
      • 8 sep 2022 - 19:37
    • Nee, de ene motor heeft pas één race gereden en da andere twee.

      • + 0
      • 8 sep 2022 - 20:33
    • DBGates

      Posts: 3.713

      Ik zou een motor pakken en die in Monza oproken, vind Binotto niet leuk

      • + 0
      • 8 sep 2022 - 22:35
  • Misschien dat ze de 1e 2 vrije trainingen nog even willen afwachten om de verhoudingen te kunnen inschatten en of inhalen wel zo makkelijk is als iedereen denkt..

    • + 1
    • 8 sep 2022 - 19:01
  • Ik zou eerst ff de vt's afwachten voordat er een besluit wordt genomen.
    (Komt er nou werkelijk niemand op dit idee?)

    • + 2
    • 8 sep 2022 - 19:11
    • M@X

      Posts: 1.166

      Hm misschien als ze de data goed bekijken van de eerste twee trainingen dat ze dan wel een beeld zouden moeten hebben.

      • + 0
      • 8 sep 2022 - 21:11
  • Een soort van "ut spelleke" leuk houden. Bedoel gewoon zomaar wegrijden in het niets is schadelijk voor het imago van de sport. Maar weten dat je toch gemakkelijk naar voren kan. Och waarom niet. Plus misschien de bonus van 3 wedstrijden buiten de top 10 starten en winnen in 1 seizoen. Staat leuk op de CV

    • + 1
    • 8 sep 2022 - 19:15
    • nr 76

      Posts: 5.642

      Voor de aardigheid zou ie uit Milaan moeten starten.

      • + 1
      • 8 sep 2022 - 21:01
  • Snork

    Posts: 18.653

    Ik weet dat Marko en Horner hier hun advies en strategie inwinnen. Dus ik denk dat ze VT1 en VT2 even aankijken. Namens RBR, dank!

    • + 1
    • 8 sep 2022 - 21:06
  • Over straffen gesproken. 7 rijders al. Geen idee hoe veel plekken het er gaan worden voor de rijders.
    Hamilton, Sainz, Perez, Bottas, Schumacher en Magnussen. Dat zijn er zes ivm component wissels.
    Tsunoda krijgt 10 plekken in verband met de 5de waarschuwing. Maar die zal ook wel een stuk of wat motorcomponenten krijgen gok ik.
    Bron was MSM. Is Duits.

    youtu.be/-YHJ6ox8IY8

    Even Pietje zijn tip geprobeerd.

    • + 0
    • 8 sep 2022 - 21:20
    • Snork

      Posts: 18.653

      Ze starten dit jaar in de parabolica, zo veel gridstraffen moeten de coureurs naar achteren. Hierdoor zal de race 15 sec. langer duren. Handig om te weten indien je nog iets gepland had staan na de race.

      • + 1
      • 8 sep 2022 - 23:16
    • Grrrrrene

      Posts: 84

      Niet dat je dat ooit geregeld krijgt, maar wat een geweldige grap zou het zijn als alle teams tegelijk met beide auto's een straf pakken.

      Ik geloof niet dat Red Bull een nieuwe motor moet pakken: ze hebben er nog twee door relatief nieuw zijn, dus waarom? Maar als er echt veel penalties worden gepakt en je pakt toch wel pole, zou het zomaar kunnen dat hij toch nog in de top 10 vertrekt, ondanks alle nieuwe onderdelen.

      • + 0
      • 9 sep 2022 - 00:10
  • Redbull heeft een monster gemaakt
    Terwijl dat Honda is vertrokken
    Ja ja

    • + 0
    • 9 sep 2022 - 02:24
  • Lastig te zeggen
    Het is donderdag he

    • + 0
    • 9 sep 2022 - 02:26
  • daarom

    Posts: 987

    De hele motor regel slaat nergens meer op. Die is in het leven geroepen om kosten te drukken maar (bijna) elke team gebruikt wel 1 of meerdere motoren extra per seizoen. Wat heeft die regel dan nog voor nut?

    • + 1
    • 9 sep 2022 - 02:40
  • bazzio

    Posts: 321

    Tja wat is wijsheid? Ferrari gaat de boel open schroeven volgens sommige, dus misschien een plof voor Charles? Dan is niet wisselen miscchien handig of misschien juist wel...

    • + 0
    • 9 sep 2022 - 12:56

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