Herbert waarschuwt concurrentie Verstappen: "Dat is angstaanjagend voor iedereen"

  • Gepubliceerd op 14 okt 2022 11:44
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  • Door: Bob Plaizier

Max Verstappen is bezig met een extreem sterk seizoen in de Formule 1. De Nederlandse Red Bull Racing-coureur schreef al twaalf Grands Prix op zijn naam en kroonde zich afgelopen weekend in Japan al tot wereldkampioen. Het is de verwachting dat Verstappen nog wel eventjes zal domineren, Johnny Herbert deelt die mening.

Verstappen is vrijwel het gehele seizoen al oppermachtig. De Nederlander viel in twee van de eerste drie races uit maar draaide de zaakjes daarna pijlsnel om. Hij verschalkte zijn rivaal Charles Leclerc steeds vaker en won race na race. De titel was dan ook al snel in zicht en met nog vier races te gaan kan Verstappen rustig achterover leunen.

Verstappen en Red Bull ontvangen veel complimenten voor hun prestaties. De Nederlander laat een enorme indruk achter bij kenners. Oud-coureur Johnny Herbert is dan ook duidelijk in gesprek met Sky Sports: "Verstappen heeft dat complete team om zich heen gevormd. Ze denken en ze geloven dat hij de beste ooit is. Ik kan mij herinneren dat Michael Schumacher dat ook deed, het is precies dezelfde situatie. Hij wordt alleen maar sterker en sterker. Dat is het angstaanjagende voor iedereen die hem wil verslaan."

sambal

Posts: 1.071

Ja dat extra biefstukje voor het personeel, heeft de auto angstaanjagend sneller gemaakt..;)

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  • 14 okt 2022 - 12:10

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  • Il denk dat het door die paar ton extra komt die ze bij RB teveel hebben uitgegeven. Weet je wel hoeveel sneller zo'n auto daarvan gaat rijden ;-)

    • + 6
    • 14 okt 2022 - 11:46
    • sambal

      Posts: 1.071

      Ja dat extra biefstukje voor het personeel, heeft de auto angstaanjagend sneller gemaakt..;)

      • + 10
      • 14 okt 2022 - 12:10
    • Ik heb uit zeer betrouwbare bron vernomen dat het overschrijden van de budgetcap RBR exact een halve seconde heeft opgeleverd. Nycks meer, maar zeker ook nycks minder.

      • + 0
      • 14 okt 2022 - 12:11
    • Zeker 1 seconde ;)

      • + 0
      • 14 okt 2022 - 12:15
    • Ook nog eens zonde van het geld want het personeel vond het biefstukje veuls te heet @Sambal…

      • + 2
      • 14 okt 2022 - 12:15
    • Zonder de extra sushi en haaienvinnensoep te verdoezelen zou Verstappen hooguit met Williams, Haas en Alfa Romeo hebben gevochten.
      Niet met SAT, want volgens THW maken die plaats voor Verstappen en Perez. THW kan het weten. Die houdt van Marko en Horner.

      • + 6
      • 14 okt 2022 - 12:19
    • lawrence_o

      Posts: 73

      Klopt helemaal. Aero upgrades die minder weerstand en meer downforce opleverden zodat ie niet alleen sneller op het recht maar ook door de bochten kon. Velen roepen dat de W12 met die motor zoveel sneller was. Wie echter de moeite doet naar de FIA speedtrap data te kijken moet vaststellen dat het alsnog de RB was die meer topsnelheid haalde;

      • + 0
      • 14 okt 2022 - 13:26
    • Trelas

      Posts: 986

      Je zou eerder denken dat er 0.5 seconden verloren gaat, vanwege de extra kilootjes bij Max...

      • + 0
      • 14 okt 2022 - 15:38
    • Lawrence. Je hoeft alleen maar de GPS dat te bekijken dat in de race de topsnelheden zelden verder uit elkaar lagen dan 4 km. En dan was Ferrari net zo vaak die snellere als dat Red Bull het was.
      Met drs open is vaak de Red Bull wel sneller. Ondanks dat is 8 van de 10 keer Ferrari in kwalificatie toch sneller bebleken.
      Topsnelheid is 1 aspect dat bepaalt wat de snelste auto is. Eigenlijk beweer je indirect dat Williams de beste auto heeft. Die zijn vaak als je naar de speedtrap tijden kijkt.
      De speedtrap geeft niet eens de snelste tijd aan vaak. Die wordt vaak gemeten op een andere plek op de baan. Is gewoon in GPS data te zien.
      Speed trap is geen data. Dat lijstje is niet meer dan de snelste tijd op dat punt gemeten per rijder.
      Speed trap is overleed.

      • + 0
      • 15 okt 2022 - 09:11
  • beerkuh

    Posts: 3.374

    Ontegenzeggelijk is het zo dat Max steeds sterker wordt, ook rustiger en bekeken! blijft natuurlijk dat ook de wagen hem tot dit in staat stelt! het complete team is zichzelf aan het committeren aan Max en dat is gewoon zoals elke grote coureur het wenst! als een van die gaat falen dan worden de prestaties automatisch ook minder, blijft natuurlijk dat Mercedes en Ferrari ook kunnen verbeteren wat weer ten goede komt aan de spanning in elke volgende kampioenschapsronde!

    • + 2
    • 14 okt 2022 - 11:48
    • Alleen bij Ferrari en Mercedes is het (op dit moment) niet zo dat alle focus naar het zelfde punt gericht is. Bij Ferrari komt dat m.i omdat de ze blijven hangen in een strategie die niet gericht is op 1 punt maar proberen op 2 paarden te wedden. Daarbij is het ene paard (Charles) (nog) niet in staat om met de vuist op tafel te slaan omdat zijn vertrouwen niet groot genoeg is en het andere paard (Carlos) wel het vertrouwen heeft maar net niet de snelheid heeft (tov Charles).

      Bij Mercedes zie je dat ze twijfelen tussen Georges en Lewis en dan zie je ook dat daar een verkeerde focus ligt. Tevens is men bij Mercedes meer bezig met RBR dan met zichzelf en dat levert alleen maar negatieve energie op en frustratie (zeker als het niet lukt om e.e.a. om te keren) bij Ferrari heb ik overigens niet het idee dat die negatieve energie hebben door RBR maar hoohuit door eigen missers.

      Beide team moeten daar een andere focus krijgen om echt mee te doen. De auto's zullen volgend jaar denk ik wel weer wat dichter bij RBR komen. Ferrari zit er m.i. tegenaan en soms er over en Mercedes zal volgend jaar denk ik hetbgat een stuk gedicht hebben.

      Maar of ze de focus naar 1 punt krijgen vraagbik me af als ze met dezelfde line-up blijven rijden zonder een duideljjk nr1 aan te wijzen. Overigens als ze dat wel doen is hetbde vraag of hun '2e' rijder zich in zo'n rol wil schikken wat dan weer negatief kan werken.

      RBR heeftvwat dat betreft met Perez een echte secundant net als Rosberg was bij Lewis en Barichello bij Schumacher

      • + 3
      • 14 okt 2022 - 12:53
    • Zit je ! vast Beerkuh?! Valt me gewoon op! Verder niks hoor! Goed weekend!

      On topic; wat schrijf je nou eigenlijk?

      • + 2
      • 14 okt 2022 - 13:14
    • Ik had toch niet de indruk dat RB zo dominant was, kijk naar de feiten .. Ferrari heeft bijzonder laten liggen en voor vele insiders en kenners was het voor het seizoen al duidelijk wie in Maranello in de bovenste schuit lag!

      Ik denk dan ook dat enkel Ferrari volgend jaar het gevecht kan aangaan, het leek mij dat ze dit jaar iets teveel focus hadden op een wagen die snel was over een ronde terwijl RB duidelijk in de race beter presteerde dat zag je ook bij Perez terug , nu ik denk dat ze dit euvel wel kunnen overkomen, Mercedes zit in de problemen die gaan volgens mij achter de feiten aan holen de komende 2 jaar.

      • + 1
      • 14 okt 2022 - 14:20
    • Goe gezegd

      • + 0
      • 15 okt 2022 - 02:09
  • Joeppp

    Posts: 7.329

    Ik heb gisteren de docu op netflix gekeken over schumacher. Maar daar kwam toch naar voren dat ze na een paar jaar wel twijfelde of ze door moesten met schumacher. Ik denk dat dit nooit bij Verstappen heeft gespeeld.

    • + 0
    • 14 okt 2022 - 11:51
    • Moondust

      Posts: 728

      In welke jaren was er twijfel?

      • + 0
      • 14 okt 2022 - 12:05
    • Joeppp

      Posts: 7.329

      In de jaren voor zijn wk’s waarin ze in de laatste races steeds het wk verloren. Denk 97, 98 en 99. Ben niet zo sterk in jaartallen onthouden.

      • + 0
      • 14 okt 2022 - 12:10
    • Was dat niet 1998 of 1999?

      • + 0
      • 14 okt 2022 - 12:12
    • De jaren daarna wilden zijn collega’s wel van Schumacher af…

      • + 2
      • 14 okt 2022 - 12:18
  • Tot Hongarije had ik nog het idee dat Leclerc/Ferrari nog kon winnen van Max/Red Bull, maar Max zijn comeback en Ferrari's geprutst verpulverde alle hoop ;)

    • + 0
    • 14 okt 2022 - 12:06
    • Max had in Hongarije zelfs nog tijd over voor een ererondje tijdens de race ;)

      • + 4
      • 14 okt 2022 - 12:14
    • Max dacht dat dat het minste wat hij kon doen nadat Charles dat deed in Frankrijk ;)

      • + 1
      • 14 okt 2022 - 12:19
    • Zijn 360 tijdens de race was al een ‘ererondje’ @Schwantz…

      • + 0
      • 14 okt 2022 - 12:33
    • Lol, dat bedoelde je natuurlijk…

      • + 0
      • 14 okt 2022 - 12:34
  • Dit is niet de waan van de dag maar de ‘waan van een tijdperk’.

    Pas na Q3 van de eerste GP van 2023 kan een ruwe inschatting worden gemaakt of 2021/2022 een vervolg krijgt en je kunt pas achteraf bepalen of iets een tijdperk was…

    • + 0
    • 14 okt 2022 - 12:13
  • De beste ooit? tja, ik denk niet dat je dat zomaar even kan zeggen, elke tijd in de geschiedenis van deze sport heeft legendes. Hij behoort er wel toe, samen met nog een stuk of 10.

    • + 0
    • 14 okt 2022 - 12:29
  • lawrence_o

    Posts: 73

    Zonder Hamilton heeft hij geen concurrentie. Vorig jaar was veel spannender; Als je dan nu bedenkt dat Lewis het moest opnemen tegen een auto die weinig last had van de aero regels, een auto die een illegale flexwing had tot Azerbaijan en later nog eens voor een paar miljoen extra upgrades kreeg, dan zegt dat wel wat. Pure GOATness. Ondanks dat alles had hij nog gewonnen ware het niet dat Masi eventjes wat regels brak.

    • + 2
    • 14 okt 2022 - 13:24
    • Jane

      Posts: 1.128

      Pfffffffffffffft

      • + 0
      • 14 okt 2022 - 14:39
    • Nou, en hij had er maar het dubbele aantal motoren voor nodig, en slechts één moordpoging;)

      • + 4
      • 14 okt 2022 - 15:07
    • @Lawrence Als je dan nu bedenkt bladiebladiebla....

      Hoho, ik bedenk helemaal nycks hé, jij bent hier zelf de grote complotbedenkert aan het uithangen.

      • + 3
      • 14 okt 2022 - 15:43
    • John6

      Posts: 8.170

      Laten we hopen dat Lewis de volgende GP niet weer achter Ocon komt te zitten.

      • + 2
      • 14 okt 2022 - 16:28
  • Continuïteit is ook belangrijk om een goed team te creëren, en dat hebben ze bij Red Bull met Max en de rest.. Die zijn nu allemaal zo perfect op elkaar ingespeeld, dat fouten zoals in Singapore uitzonderlijk zijn.. Max maakt zelf ook amper fouten, en als hij ze maakt komt hij er meestal mee weg.. Ik zie op dit moment Red Bull ook gewoon de beste blijven tot 2026.. Ik denk niet dat Ferrari de ontwikkeling-strijd kan winnen van Red Bull en ik denk dat Mercedes gewoon te ver achter ligt met een auto die vanaf het begin in de basis gewoon minder is als wat Ferrari en Red Bull hebben.. Maar we gaan het wel zien in 2023 etc..

    De grote vraag bij Red Bull is, hoelang gaan Adrian Newey en Helmut Marko nog mee, want dat zijn 2 belangrijke pilaren binnen de hele organisatie.. En dan natuurlijk Dietrich Mateschitz van Red Bull zelf.. Hoe zal het gaan als die ermee gestopt zijn?

    • + 1
    • 14 okt 2022 - 16:06
    • Als die stoppen neemt Rich Energy Red Bull over.

      • + 0
      • 14 okt 2022 - 18:30

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