Wolff hoopt dat Red Bull last gaat krijgen van nieuwe flexiwing-regels

  • Gepubliceerd op 05 sep 2023 12:07
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  • Door: Bob Plaizier

Over anderhalve week gaat er in Singapore een nieuwe technische richtlijn gelden omtrent de zogenaamde flexiwings. De FIA vermoedt dat meerdere teams gebruik maken van systemen die niet worden opgemerkt tijdens reguliere tests. Het is niet duidelijk welke team hier de gevolgen van gaan merken, maar Toto Wolff hoopt wel dat Red Bull hierdoor een deel van hun voorsprong moet inleveren.

Eerder dit seizoen adviseerde de FIA meerdere teams om hun ontwerp aan te passen omdat het mogelijk in strijd was met de technische reglementen. Eén van de teams waarin dit is gevraagd, is vermoedelijk Aston Martin. Om een nieuwe rel omtrent flexiwings te voorkomen, heeft de FIA nu de technische richtlijn TD018 ingevoerd. Deze richtlijn gaat gelden vanaf de Singaporese Grand Prix. De FIA denkt namelijk dat er nu systemen worden gebruikt die niet worden opgemerkt tijdens tests.

Interessant

Doormiddel van deze technische richtlijn wil de FIA verdere overtredingen voorkomen. In Singapore zullen de gevolgen zichtbaar worden en Mercedes-teambaas Toto Wolff is zeer benieuwd naar de gevolgen. In gesprek met Motorsport.com laat hij hier zijn licht over schijnen: "Het zal interessant gaan worden. Bij Aston Martin zie je al dat ze een stap achterwaarts hebben gezet nu hun minder vleugel beweegt, maar ik ken de details niet. Later we het dus afwachten.''

Red Bull

Wolff hoopt dat een aantal andere teams ook last gaan krijgen van de nieuwe technische richtlijn. De Oostenrijker tast vooralsnog in het duister over de gevolgen, maar hij deelt wel weer een plaagstootje uit naar Red Bull: "Ik weet niet wie er meer van profiteert dan anderen, maar wie weet is Red Bull misschien ineens een halve seconde langzamer. Dat zou wel heel erg mooi zijn, maar ik denk niet dat dit uiteindelijk het geval zal zijn." 

Toto Afgünst

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  • 5 sep 2023 - 12:08

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  • Toto Afgünst

    • + 24
    • 5 sep 2023 - 12:08
    • F1jos

      Posts: 2.920

      O T : De FIA heeft de procedure van de budgetcap van 2022 afgerond en bekendgemaakt dat alle tien de Formule 1-teams onder het kostenplafond zitten.

      Jammer voor Lewis, er worden geen zware straffen gegeven.

      • + 8
      • 5 sep 2023 - 12:38
    • Maximo

      Posts: 8.733

      Ik zag een video van de voorvleugel van Mercedes in Zandvoort en daar leek het bovenste deel niet door te buigen, maar wel bijna 30 graden als geheel te scharnieren.

      Zou zo maar kunnen dat Mercedes zelf nog meer last van de nieuwe metingen krijgt dan andere teams.

      • + 21
      • 5 sep 2023 - 12:42
    • delange

      Posts: 2.247

      30 graden? Overdrijf je niet een heel klein beetje?

      • + 0
      • 5 sep 2023 - 12:47
    • Van de week wordt het ook 30 graden.....

      • + 9
      • 5 sep 2023 - 12:50
    • Goed zo.
      Lekker weer.

      • + 1
      • 5 sep 2023 - 14:40
    • Het is hier al een poosje 30 graden en het wordt nog warmer
      en dat blijft zeker t/m volgende week dinsdag. Ik vind dat maar niets.

      • + 3
      • 5 sep 2023 - 15:02
    • Maximo

      Posts: 8.733

      Uhhhh…. Nee ik overdrijf niet.

      Kijk maar, er scharniert 1 flapje nog wel meer dan 30 graden.

      https://youtu.be/rpaqFUci_NA?si=CWSSrJKvHeGcIGB6

      • + 1
      • 5 sep 2023 - 18:46
    • Maximo

      Posts: 8.733

      De RB had in Zandvoort ook zeker een flexi flap, maar die van Mercedes maakte het wel erg bont.

      • + 1
      • 5 sep 2023 - 18:49
    • Maximo

      Posts: 8.733

      Deze is van 2022, maar sindsdien hebben ze de testen niet aangescherpt en rijdt Mercedes nog steeds met hetzelfde draaiende flapje rond. RB heeft inmiddels iets soortgelijks gemaakt, maar zo extreem als Mercedes is het bij geen enkel team.

      https://youtu.be/N22gBzGgmqA?si=REmKSM4RXQJ5cN8l

      • + 0
      • 5 sep 2023 - 18:53
    • Sapperdeflap, nou je het zegt...

      • + 0
      • 6 sep 2023 - 01:09
  • Spaedie

    Posts: 211

    Al meer regels gezien, maar vooral het verschil tussen Red Bull en Mercedes lijkt alleen maar groter te worden.

    • + 3
    • 5 sep 2023 - 12:10
  • Volop pijn hebben en dan nog aan zulke dingen denken.... Toto is gewoon 'n kanjer.

    • + 14
    • 5 sep 2023 - 12:14
    • F1jos

      Posts: 2.920

      Flexibele knie geven, kan hij harder naar andere teams schoppen 🦵

      • + 4
      • 5 sep 2023 - 12:33
    • WC MAX

      Posts: 6.066

      Ouw, je blijft een kanjer met je gevatte uitspraken.

      • + 1
      • 5 sep 2023 - 13:46
    • Gewoon zó uit de mouw.

      • + 2
      • 5 sep 2023 - 14:22
  • Off-topic:

    Zeven Formule 1-records die Max Verstappen in 2023 kan verbreken

    motor sport(.)com/f1/news/deze-formule-1-records-max-verstappen-2023-verbreken/10504604/

    * spatie en haakjes verwijderen

    • + 1
    • 5 sep 2023 - 12:15
    • zijn er nog veel meer hoor. Jongste coureur met 11 zege's, oudste coureur met 11 zege's, eerste NL'se coureur met 11 zege's, eerste mannelijke coureur met 11 zege's en zo kun je een hele lijst maken. Ze gaan het nog druk krijgen bij Wikipedia.

      • + 14
      • 5 sep 2023 - 12:25
    • Staat allemaal al klaar,en na de race hoeven ze alleen op enter te drukken.

      • + 1
      • 5 sep 2023 - 12:32
    • Misschien iets voor jou @Roy om alle bijkomende awards op te halen?
      Max zal dat wel kunnen waarderen...

      • + 2
      • 5 sep 2023 - 12:36
    • Welke zijn dat dan, Larry?

      • + 0
      • 5 sep 2023 - 12:36
    • delange

      Posts: 2.247

      @Roy ....konden we bij jou maar op de enterknop drukken. :-)

      • + 3
      • 5 sep 2023 - 12:48
    • Zie de link @Snailer.

      • + 0
      • 5 sep 2023 - 12:52
    • Ik wil mijn info via koekjes niet prijsgeven, Larry. Zie op die s i t e alleen de headlines.

      Ben dus niet van plan om telkens een VM uit te rollen, koekjes toe te laten, kijken, VM weggooien, server opschonen.

      • + 1
      • 5 sep 2023 - 12:56
    • Oké, maar het artikel is te lang om hier te plaatsen.
      Maar kom jij nooit op de genoemde seit @Snailer? Is echt een toppertje hoor...

      • + 0
      • 5 sep 2023 - 13:03
    • Nee. Ik luister wel graag naar de video's van de mannen en vooral de vrouw. Die vrouw heeft een zeer prettige stem om naar te luisteren.

      • + 0
      • 5 sep 2023 - 14:31
    • Ik lust die koekjes rauw inmiddels.

      • + 0
      • 5 sep 2023 - 23:12
  • Wolff krijgt dadelijk een flexi elleboog en knie, daardoor wordt Toto heel flexibel......

    • + 1
    • 5 sep 2023 - 12:17
  • Ga jij nu maar eventjes eerst je rug fixen,gezondheid is het belangrijkste.zien we daarna wel weer wie er het snelste rondjes kan rijden.

    • + 0
    • 5 sep 2023 - 12:19
  • bij Aston Martin is het effect al een paar maanden zichtbaar dus lijkt me onwaarschijnlijk dat andere teams pas in Singapore gaan aanpassen. t is alleen dat het vanaf Singapore 100% definitief is. Maar goed, nog ff snel de naam Red Bull laten vallen in combinatie met flexiwings is natuurlijk altijd een slim idee (in de Mercedes strategie).

    • + 4
    • 5 sep 2023 - 12:21
    • nr 76

      Posts: 5.642

      Nu kwam de yerugval bij AM wel tegelijk met de invoering van de nieuwe bandenstructuur.

      • + 1
      • 5 sep 2023 - 13:21
    • Nog ff snel de naam Mercedes laten vallen in combinatie met flexiwings kunnen wij ook...

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      • + 1
      • 6 sep 2023 - 01:16
    • (zo, heb ik ook eens een lange reactie getypt)

      • + 1
      • 6 sep 2023 - 01:19
    • Zo Larry , je bent dus een echte Mercedesfan .

      Lollig ? Neen !

      • + 0
      • 6 sep 2023 - 09:17
    • Bedankt voor de feedback, ga erover nadenken wat ik ermee ga doen…

      • + 0
      • 6 sep 2023 - 12:30
    • Heb er over nagedacht en ga er niks mee doen…

      • + 0
      • 6 sep 2023 - 12:32
    • nr 76

      Posts: 5.642

      Dat lijkt me een weloverwogen beslissing.

      • + 0
      • 6 sep 2023 - 12:48
    • Dat klopt @nr 76, daarover hoef ik niet na te denken...

      • + 0
      • 6 sep 2023 - 12:58
  • Nja als je ziet hoe die voorvleugel op de merc. flext, weet ik niet wie er het meest last van krijgt...

    • + 10
    • 5 sep 2023 - 12:24
  • Zielepoot.

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    • 5 sep 2023 - 12:35
  • Jane

    Posts: 1.128

    Off topic, geen van de teams is over de bc gegaan in 2022

    • + 1
    • 5 sep 2023 - 12:37
  • tour71

    Posts: 1.358

    of ze hebben nergens last van, andere teams wel en lopen ze vervolgens nog harder uit...

    • + 2
    • 5 sep 2023 - 12:42
  • jd2000

    Posts: 6.646

    Ach, wat moet de man wanhopig zijn. Als je het hier van moet hebben om vooruit te gaan.

    • + 7
    • 5 sep 2023 - 12:54
  • Pepe

    Posts: 885

    Toto je staat al buitenspel

    • + 3
    • 5 sep 2023 - 13:20
  • Als er 1 een flexibele voorvleugel heeft is het mercedes.. dat ding gaat helemaal plat

    • + 3
    • 5 sep 2023 - 13:34
  • Toto heeft het achter zijn ellenbogen.

    • + 2
    • 5 sep 2023 - 13:38
  • Er is een team dat extra veel ervaring heeft met flexiwings en rubberen neusjes.

    • + 0
    • 5 sep 2023 - 13:47
  • WC MAX

    Posts: 6.066

    Mooi man, vanaf het moment (2022) dat Wolff eigenhandig een basis moet leggen voor zijn team, runt hij zijn team op basis van ijdele hoop. Laat hem vooral blijven hopen, tot nu toe pakt dat geweldig uit

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    • 5 sep 2023 - 13:51
  • GILH

    Posts: 1.320

    Ha mooie opmerking Toto even een hengel uitgooien en tegelijkertijd aangeven dat hij ervan bewust is dat RB geen flex wings heeft.

    Goed gespeeld!

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    • 5 sep 2023 - 13:58
    • Weet je, ik heb die uitdrukking nooit goed begrepen: "een hengel uitgooien". Want als je aan de waterkant je hengel eruit gooit, hoe vang je dan nog vissen?

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      • 5 sep 2023 - 14:36
    • GILH

      Posts: 1.320

      “Zelfs een ezel stoot zich niet twee keer aan de zelfde steen” heb ik ook nooit begrepen. Geeft alleen maar aan dat diegene die dat overkomt geen Ezel kan zijn.

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      • 5 sep 2023 - 14:40
    • @f(1)orum
      Misschien even aan @schwantz vragen. Die weet nog wel het één en ander van vissen.

      Eddy.

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      • 5 sep 2023 - 18:20
    • Thx @flyineddy

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      • 5 sep 2023 - 19:26
    • @f(1)orum Ik ben wel eens het water ingedoken nadat ik een vis had aangeslagen en mijn hengel ( oversteek) ineens een kleine 4 meter korter was en de laatste 4 delen in het water lagen inclusief vis .
      Het ging mij niet om de vis (die er vandoor wilde met de top van de hengel ),maar na de duik had allebei , de hengel weer compleet en de vis nog aan de haak .

      Dus het kan wel .

      • + 2
      • 6 sep 2023 - 00:13
    • @Spielberg: Ah, bedankt; zo zie je maar, je bent nooit te oud om weer een stukje wijsheid op te vissen!

      • + 0
      • 6 sep 2023 - 07:55
    • @f(1)orum , je kan het eens proberen .
      's morgensvroeg om zes uur aan de waterkant gaan zitten (kan ook zonder hengel) en genieten van de natuur die ontwaakt met de opkomende zon .
      En, nee ik stem niet op GL zou je dat denken , maar ik zie wel vele milleudelicten zoals het storten van chemische stoffen waar je niet mee geconfronteerd wil worden .

      • + 0
      • 6 sep 2023 - 08:40
    • nr 76

      Posts: 5.642

      Telkens als Toto een hengel uitgooit, vangt hij alleen maar bruinvissen.

      • + 1
      • 6 sep 2023 - 09:43
    • Waarschijnlijk met succes , want die kunnen kunstjes leren .

      • + 0
      • 6 sep 2023 - 10:24
  • Je maakt jezelf iedere dag minder populair met zulke uitspraken toto
    Geef je studenten wat huiswerk mee!!!

    • + 1
    • 5 sep 2023 - 14:04
  • Hoop dat Wolff last gaat krijgen van... (Vul maar in) 😈

    • + 0
    • 5 sep 2023 - 14:33
  • Davidof

    Posts: 12

    De man kan beter zorgen dat de eigen auto beter word in plaats van blijven hopen dat andere auto's slechter worden. Wordt tijd dat Mercedes dit droevige hoopje mens eens terug gaat fluiten. Ik zou als merk niet geassocieerd willen worden met het onsportieve gebazel wat hij uitkraam de laatste tijd.

    • + 11
    • 5 sep 2023 - 14:36
  • rubke

    Posts: 158

    Dit begint zielig te worden

    • + 3
    • 5 sep 2023 - 15:35
  • Kampsie

    Posts: 811

    Ik was altijd een neutrale fan van de sport, maar begin nu toch echt aversie tegen een bepaald team te ontwikkelen.

    • + 7
    • 5 sep 2023 - 15:56
  • Als RBR er (al) last van krijgt moet Mercedes eerst Ferrari en AM zien te verslaan. Had Toto nou gezegd “ Ik hoop dat Ferrari getroffen wordt “ zou nog enigszins begrijpelijk zijn. Deze opmerking toont enkel afgunst.
    Toch wel lekker dat RBR in zijn hoofd blijft zitten peuteren

    • + 5
    • 5 sep 2023 - 16:52
    • nr 76

      Posts: 5.642

      Toto is in gedachte nog steeds in een heftige strijd met RedBull verwikkeld.

      • + 1
      • 5 sep 2023 - 18:32
    • Hij wordt nog steeds 3 x per nacht wakker, badend in het zweet na alweer een nare droom over de laatste ronde in AD 2021 😝

      • + 1
      • 5 sep 2023 - 20:05
  • Wat is Toto toch een zure gast geworden he sinds 2 jaar geleden?

    • + 3
    • 5 sep 2023 - 18:00
    • FredEx

      Posts: 1.002

      Hij heeft zeker veel "zurezult" gehaald bij jou?(heeft overigens Wel zn werkgedaan die zurezult)

      • + 0
      • 5 sep 2023 - 19:58
  • Rvb1979

    Posts: 1.132

    Ik vind het vooral weer tekenend voor toto dat hij hoopt dat een derde partij hun dichter bij red bull brengt ipv uitgaan van eigen kunde en kracht. En ja red bull mopperde ook wel eens over de dominantie van mercedes vooral omdat ze het motor gedeelte niet zelf in de hand hadden in die 8 jaar dominantie. Maar mercedes piept bijna elke race de afgelopen 2 jaar waarvan het eerste jaar ferrari in het begin de snellere auto had. Ik ben bang dat ze er nu achter zijn gekomen dat ze niet zo'n geweldig team zijn zonder de motor overmacht waar ze zeker 7 jaar op hebben kunnen teren

    • + 1
    • 5 sep 2023 - 19:44
    • @Rvb, yep het lijkt erop dat bij Toto het besef neerdaalt dat Mercedes op eigen kracht RB niet kan verslaan en dat de FIA hun ook niet gaat matsen. Ferrari. heeft hoop dat ze in 24 weer een goede auto hebben en Toto straalt het tegenovergestelde uit.

      • + 0
      • 6 sep 2023 - 07:55
  • MaxRaw

    Posts: 735

    Dat wordt dan nog leuk, volgens Teds Notebook maakt vooral Mercedes gebruik van Flexiwings en gaan ze er prat op dat ze deze 'maas' gevonden en gebruikt hebben.
    Staan ze in Singapore weer verder achter de RB?
    Hoe dan ook gaat Mercedes pas iets aanpassen als er met sancties en boetes gedreigd gaat worden, aangezien Toto graag de FIA wijst op al dan niet mogelijke onregelmatigheden mag ik er toch van uit gaan dat ze weer eens met de neus op de feiten gedrukt worden.
    Langzaam aan begin ik dat Getoto wel een beetje zat te worden, die kerel heeft echt niets beters te doen blijkbaar, dan zal het allemaal wel niet zo erg zijn bij Mercedes..

    • + 0
    • 5 sep 2023 - 20:15
  • We moeten de concurrentie langzamer maken want we kunnen zelf ons werk niet goed doen. Man man wat een armoedig verhaal weer.

    • + 1
    • 5 sep 2023 - 23:09
  • SennaS

    Posts: 6.005

    Hah die Toto.
    Ik hoop ook dat rbr meer wordt geraakt dan de concurrentie voor de competitie.
    Maar het zal wel weer anders andersom zijn, zoals vanaf 2020, rbr het minst wordt geraakt door de “FIA”
    wijzigingen.

    • + 0
    • 6 sep 2023 - 00:50
    • Je snapt toch wel dat je je nu associeert met een zielige loser die zelf vals speelt en anderen daar juist van beschuldigt?

      • + 0
      • 6 sep 2023 - 08:00
  • Ik snap niet waarom de FIA hier zo'n probleem van maakt. Het is een innovate op de auto, laat het gewoon gebeuren, dan heeft ieder er zijn voordeel van. Het kan Mercedes net zo goed de kop kosten aangezien hun voorvleugel behoorlijk flexibel is.

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    • 6 sep 2023 - 07:55

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