Grosjean: IndyCar loopt '30 jaar achter' op F1, maar produceert betere 'raceactie'

  • Gepubliceerd op 23 aug 2023 14:25
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  • Door: Rik van Oosterhout

Romain Grosjean is een van de coureurs die een flinke bak ervaring in vooral de Formule 1, maar ook in de IndyCar heeft. In een recentelijke aflevering van de Track Limits-podcast, maakt Grosjean de vergelijking tussen de twee autosportcategorieën.  

Romain Grosjean, welke F1-fan kent hem niet. De Franse coureur maakte tien jaar lang deel uit van de Formule 1, en heeft daarmee vele hoogte- maar ook dieptepunten in de koningsklasse gegenereerd. Na zijn hoofdrol in de bizarre crash tijdens de Bahrain Grand Prix eind 2020, waar hij gelukkig bijna geen verwondingen aan overhield, werd hij bij zijn werkgever Haas niet op de coureurslijst voor het daaropvolgende seizoen gezet. Grosjean (en teamgenoot Kevin Magnussen) werden beiden door vervangen, waardoor de Fransman zodoende de overstap naar IndyCar kon maken.  

"Het was erg verfrissend, maar ook weer heel anders", begint Grosjean over zijn eerste ervaringen in de IndyCar. "De IndyCar is meer casual, dat was wel fijn nadat ik tien jaar lang in de Formule 1 had gezeten. Ik vond mijn tijd in de Formule 1 geweldig, maar tien jaar hetzelfde doen is lang. Ook al was het een passie, voelde het gewoon alsof ik wat nieuws moest doen. Ik heb het erg naar mijn zin in de IndyCar en het geeft een goed gevoel dat iedere keer als we gaan racen, ik een kans heb om te winnen." 

Grosjean loopt inmiddels al drie jaar mee in de Amerikaanse raceklasse, en zegt het daar ontzettend naar zijn zin te hebben. Volgens hem is er op het gebied van technologie een grote achterstand naar de Formule 1, maar hint dat de Amerikaanse variant juist daarom zo leuk is:

"De IndyCar loopt op het gebied van technologie zo'n 30 jaar achter (op de Formule 1). En we willen dat niet verder pushen, want dat maakt de sport stukken duurder. Het is momenteel niet heel duur om met onze auto's te racen, terwijl ze waarschijnlijk de beste raceactie ter wereld produceren. Je moet je meer op het rijden focussen in plaats van alleen maar knopjes omdraaien. De auto's zijn fenomenaal", sluit Grosjean af.  

MWHT

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En toch is Grosjean ook in deze klasse weer een brokkenpiloot, toch knap....

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  • 23 aug 2023 - 15:34

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  • Betere race-actie misschien, maar het is natuurlijk ook wel weer zo Amerikaans als de pest...

    • + 4
    • 23 aug 2023 - 15:17
  • MWHT

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    En toch is Grosjean ook in deze klasse weer een brokkenpiloot, toch knap....

    • + 9
    • 23 aug 2023 - 15:34
    • Eens. En gestoorde inhaalacties waarbij die eigenlijk gewoon te laat remt.

      Daarbij een houdinh dat het nooit aan hem ligt en jahoor amerikanen zijn ook wel weer zat van hem na twee jaar.

      De klasse zou weer iets leuker zijn zonder grosjean.

      • + 5
      • 23 aug 2023 - 15:44
    • @MWHT; Crashjean heeft in Indy Cars veel minder tijd nodig gehad om door z’n collega’s als een volslagen mongool betiteld te worden. Wat dat betreft is Indy weer veel verder als F1. 🤡

      • + 9
      • 23 aug 2023 - 16:22
    • Haha, recentelijk Will Power nog.

      https://youtu(punt)be/qkNqs3e5Kb4

      Ach, Grosjean is geen rampzalige coureur. Maar hij lijkt gewoon concentratieproblemen te hebben. Te veel fouten, die zien we volgend jaar waarschijnlijk niet terug op de grid.

      • + 3
      • 23 aug 2023 - 18:54
    • MWHT

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      ik kan wel genieten van Will Power, lekker uitgesproken altijd....

      • + 3
      • 23 aug 2023 - 20:47
    • Hahaha, ja prachtig als hij zelfs zijn eigen team maten eraf rost, dat kan ook alleen maar in INDYCAR !

      • + 0
      • 24 aug 2023 - 05:55
  • Ik laat me graag corrigeren, maar ik zie vooral treintjes rijden, of iemand die wat mensen inhaalt als die net verse banden heeft. Niets bijzonders eigenlijk.
    Ik zeg er bij dat ik voor dit jaar niet mag spreken. Elk jaar kijk ik wel een Indy race om uit te vinden of ik het wat vind. Wat ik de laatste jaren zag motiveerde mij niet. Dus cooigeer me gerust als er veel wordt ingehaald. Zeker op de niet-ovals vond ik de race die ik heb gezien erg tegenvallen.

    • + 2
    • 23 aug 2023 - 17:41
    • Kan wel begrijpen waarom je dat zegt. Indycar is het vaak de strategie die de races maakt... maar vooral halverwege een beetje sust qua sensatie.

      Alleen wanneer je die gasten aan t werk ziet met wegbrekende achterkant en bijna vliegend over putdeksels dan doet me dat erg denken aan de goude oude F1 tijd voor elk circuit een biljartlaken werd.

      IMS is dan de meest Europese race en die vind ik dan ook al gauw verdomd saai... t was dat bij de voorgaande race Dixon t interessant hield maar IMS is vaak even saai als de eerste 150 ronden van de 500.

      • + 3
      • 23 aug 2023 - 18:12
    • Saai is dan natuurlijk subjectief... ik bedoel ze gaan nog steeds knijters hard met de 500.

      • + 1
      • 23 aug 2023 - 18:13
    • Juist......en als er over de strategie nooit eens iets uitgelegd wordt, snap je er nog niets van.

      • + 0
      • 23 aug 2023 - 18:53
    • Ja, de kwalificatie van de Indy500 is echt nagelbijten. Wat gaan die gasten dan knetterhard. Ik kan me goed voorstellen dat veel coureur hier gewoon voor passen omdat het te gevaarlijk is.

      In IndyCar is natuurlijk geen DRS, wel push to pass (wat extra vermogen). De auto's hebben minder downforce en zijn ook veel logger en toch makkelijker te corrigeren. Vandaar veel beweging aan het stuur. Ook zijn de wagens wat sterker en kan je dus iets ruiger zijn bij het inhalen. Op het oog wat meer old school racen, zoals Grosjean aangeeft.

      Ik hou er wel van. Lekker Amerikaans, veel neutralisaties en (bijna) altijd spektakel en onvoorspelbaarheid.

      • + 1
      • 23 aug 2023 - 18:59
    • Strategie in Indy is duidelijk hoor. Heb in het verleden vaak gekeken.

      Managen is leuk. Gebeurt ook in F1. Maar in de Indy rijdt soms een rijder de hele race achteraan om dan plots na lle stops plots die rijder vooraan ligt. Dat heeft voor mij niets met racen te maken. Had ik niet met jou een korte rollebollen over kunstmatige inseminatie, TylaHunter? Hier zou dat heel goed passen.

      • + 2
      • 23 aug 2023 - 19:45
    • Haha rollebollen wil ik het niet noemen. Meer een leuke kijk uitwisseling.

      AI zou veel partijen in Indycar goed doen. Snelle datacollectie en slimmere strategieën dan de meeste teams nu uitvoeren.

      • + 1
      • 23 aug 2023 - 20:27
  • .

    • + 0
    • 23 aug 2023 - 18:35
  • LimboF1

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    Ik kijk er eerder zo tegenaan dat de Indy Cars puur zijn gebleven en daar maakt in mijn ogen de coureur ook nog altijd meer het verschil.

    • + 2
    • 23 aug 2023 - 19:02
  • Larry@ je hebt een nieuw petje nodig en na Nyck de Vries heb je weer een naam om overal te roepen: Ericsson is bevestigd bij Andretti (En wordt straks, vooral door Larry, genoemd als potentieel F1 coureur?)

    • + 1
    • 23 aug 2023 - 20:28
  • Vergeleken met de F1 is Indycar maar een amateuristische klasse. Afgezien van wat ovals en Indy, rijden ze op oudbakken baantjes of rare onveilige betonnen stratencircuits. Auto's zijn uit het stenen tijdperk, iets simpels als power steering zit er niet eens op.

    • + 0
    • 23 aug 2023 - 21:36
    • Juist het ontbreken van iets simpels als stuurbekrachtiging vind ik (on board) juist prachtig om naar te kijken, het is gewoon puur karten 3.0 wat die gasten doen met die auto's!

      • + 4
      • 23 aug 2023 - 21:57
    • MWHT

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      niet met F1 vergelijken, t zijn echt totaal verschillende klassen met ook een totaal andere filosofie. Beiden hebben zo hun charmes...

      • + 4
      • 23 aug 2023 - 23:03
  • Geen bandenwarmers, geen stuurbekrachtiging, geen DRS, (wel Push to Pass...vrij te gebruiken) iedereen kan winnen, lekker ouderwetse banen, wat mij betreft een prachtige klasse om naar te kijken (al sinds 1990). Enige minpunt is dat het seizoen altijd erg kort is met maar 17 races. En altijd lekker als toetje op de zondag avond om het sportweekend af te sluiten.

    • + 0
    • 24 aug 2023 - 05:54
  • https://www.youtube(punt)com/watch?v=jnrdz658WmY voor het hele interview met Grosjean over bovenstaand verslag !

    • + 0
    • 24 aug 2023 - 05:59

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