Force India: "Wij doen meer met minder, wij zijn de beste"

  • Gepubliceerd op 09 okt 2017 11:52
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  • Door: Rob Veenstra

Het team van Force India klopt zichzelf even op de borst nu de vierde plaats bij de constructeurs zo goed als zeker is voor dit jaar. De Indiase renstal benadrukt even hoe knap die prestatie eigenlijk is. Force India-directeur Otmar Szafnauer verklaarde aan Motorsport-Total.com: "We zijn qua snelheid vierde in de pikorde en we zijn het op één na beste of het beste team."

Hij vervolgt: "Het hangt er maar net vanaf hoe je het definieert. Wij doen meer met minder dan de teams om ons heen. Dat is onze definitie van de beste en zo bezien zijn wij dus de beste. Maar als je races moet winnen om de beste te kunnen zijn, dan zijn we inderdaad niet de beste. Vorig jaar trok men al in twijfel dat we vierde kon worden en niemand gaf ons een kans weer als vierde te eindigen."

Coureur Esteban Ocon voegt toe: "We hebben gewoon weer heel goed werk geleverd. In Singapore hebben we een grote stap voorwaarts gezet met de performance. De auto is compleet anders dan aan het begin van het seizoen. Het is geweldig om alle verbeteringen en ontwikkelingen die we aan de auto toevoegen te zien. Het team is continu bezig om progressie te boeken en dat is fantastisch."

Vice-teambaas Bob Fernley tot slot: "We hebben een beetje lucht voor de vierde plaats in het kampioenschap voor constructeurs. Het zou dom zijn om te onderschatten wat Force India in 2018 kan doen." Voor een aanval op de top drie heeft Force India echter meer middelen nodig, weet Szafnauer. "Het wordt steeds lastiger om stappen te zetten. Slim zijn alleen is niet meer genoeg, je hebt de juiste gereedschappen nodig en die gereedschappen kosten geld."

Frijns

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Mooi, dan zijn we ook meteen af van het gezeik dat Max de beste is. Gezien de stand in het kampioenschap is dus Hamilton de beste, daarna Vettel, Bottas, Ricciardo, Raikkonen en op plaats zes Max.

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  • jaapdeaap

    Posts: 838

    Je bent de beste als je wint.
    Als je niet wint en jezelf uitroept als de beste, dan ben je excuses aant zoeken.

    • + 0
    • 9 okt 2017 - 11:59
    • WjayW

      Posts: 202

      Best of the rest... hoor je vaak gezegd worden.
      Maar om nou de definitie van beste aan te passen naar die van Force India is wat overdreven. Maar als Szafnauer zo nodig een veer in z'n eigen reet moet steken omdat ie denkt dat de prestaties van het team ondergewaardeerd worden, laat m dan lekker z'n gang gaan...blijkbaar zit het m hoog.

      • + 1
      • 9 okt 2017 - 12:04
    • Frijns

      Posts: 2.874

      Mooi, dan zijn we ook meteen af van het gezeik dat Max de beste is. Gezien de stand in het kampioenschap is dus Hamilton de beste, daarna Vettel, Bottas, Ricciardo, Raikkonen en op plaats zes Max.

      • + 13
      • 9 okt 2017 - 12:06
    • Frijns

      Posts: 2.874

      Iedereen die roept dat Max de beste is, is op excuses aan het zoeken.

      • + 8
      • 9 okt 2017 - 12:06
    • jaapdeaap

      Posts: 838

      Zo is dat Frijns.

      Persoonlijk doe ik ook meer met minder, maar toch zegt mijn vrouw dat ik de beste ben... hmm excuses?

      • + 2
      • 9 okt 2017 - 12:14
    • Kakatoe

      Posts: 1.246

      Alonso, Hamilton, Verstappen, Ricciardo, Vettel, Vandoorne, Ocon, Raikkonen, Hulkenberg, Sainz, Bottas, Perez, Wehrlein, Magnussen, Gasly, Grosjean, Massa, Stroll, Ericsson, Palmer

      Dit zijn de beste in de juiste rangschikking. Als er nog vragen zijn dan hoor ik het wel. ;-)

      • + 2
      • 9 okt 2017 - 12:20
    • Hij geeft het antwoord gelukkig zelf al... Ze zijn het beste in 'vierde team zijn', maar waarschijnlijk moet het budget verdubbelen (minimaal) om net dat beetje extra te vinden.

      • + 0
      • 9 okt 2017 - 12:44
    • Of je begrijpt de stelling niet Jaap.

      • + 0
      • 9 okt 2017 - 12:45
  • Force India is eigenlijk een topteam, als je hun budget vergelijkt met de rest van het veld. Superknap wat die al jaren presteren met uitstekende coureurs die er altiid het maximale weten uit te halen.

    • + 5
    • 9 okt 2017 - 12:00
    • Mee eens, maximaal renderen. Heb ik respect voor!

      • + 2
      • 9 okt 2017 - 12:15
    • neor2

      Posts: 1.540

      Ze doen het knap, als ik even mag gokken qua budgetten dan zouden Williams, Renault en McLaren er boven moeten staan.

      Haas weet ik niet wat die voor budget hebben, maar dat is nog zo'n jong team dat je voorlopig nog wel mag verwachten dat FI daar boven staat.

      Denk dat komende jaren wel zwaarder gaan worden voor Force India, het is een kwestie van tijd voordat Renault de weg omhoog weet te vinden en ik denk dat McLaren er volgend jaar al boven staat.

      • + 1
      • 9 okt 2017 - 12:18
    • Caramba

      Posts: 5.786

      Ik denk dat je alleen maar respect voor Force India kunt hebben. Het maximale halen uit beperkte middelen zit echt in hun DNA, anders dan bv Williams.
      Titels aaneenrijgen dankzij vier keer zo veel budget, daar word ik eigenlijk ook niet koud of warm van. Voor mij staat FI model voor een toekomstig F1, alleen al daarom en gezien hun staat van dienst zijn ze wel toe aan een paar overwinningen.

      • + 2
      • 9 okt 2017 - 12:25
    • Eens, gezien de beperkte middelen (en al de perikelen rond de eigenaar) doen ze het gewoonweg schitterend. Hebben meestal leuke coureurs, een dynamische en correcte aanpak en kleurrijk (zoals hun wagens eigenlijk).

      Ze blijven het toch maar elk jaar doen, hoedje af.

      • + 1
      • 9 okt 2017 - 12:40
    • Big_El

      Posts: 2.137

      Jammer genoeg kunnen ze niet meer, zoals in de Jordan tijd, meestrijden om de winst.

      • + 1
      • 9 okt 2017 - 13:05
    • Het is een succes story. Ik denk dat men eens moet analyseren bij red bull waar dat succes vandaan komt.

      • + 1
      • 9 okt 2017 - 13:07
    • Vind het heel knap wat ze presteren. Met kop en schouders best of the rest maar jammer dat Perez zo heeft lopen kloten met Ocon en onnodig punten heeft vergooid. Stom eigenlijk.

      • + 0
      • 9 okt 2017 - 19:54
  • Klopt, ze zijn het beste in het meer met minder doen..Daar win je alleen geen WK mee.

    • + 1
    • 9 okt 2017 - 12:04
    • Daar zouden ze ooit best wel kampioen mee kunnen worden, @Neppatsrev. Want is ze die lijn kunnen doortrekken en meer performance per geïnvesteerde $ leveren, komen ze op den duur vanzelf aan de top.

      • + 0
      • 9 okt 2017 - 23:26
  • Caramba

    Posts: 5.786

    Best value for money, noemen ze dat. Daar is best een markt voor.

    • + 2
    • 9 okt 2017 - 12:06
  • Rimmer

    Posts: 11.467

    Kingfisher airlines werd groot door meer met minder te doen!
    Achteraf bleek dat minder vooral door het ontduiken van de belasting te komen maar dat terzijde.

    • + 1
    • 9 okt 2017 - 12:09
    • daarom kan FI op papier ook met minder doen. Het geld van Kingfisher moet ergens heen.

      • + 1
      • 9 okt 2017 - 12:17
  • Ik vind het mooi om te zien hoe ver het team is gekomen. De afgelopen jaren is het team gestaag omhoog gekropen en is de 4e plek redelijk safe. Daar waar andere teams wisselvallig presteren door de jaren heen (bijv. Toro Rosso) of steeds verder wegzakken (bijv. Williams) blijft FI het gewoon goed doen.

    Inderdaad door slim te zijn, goede auto te bouwen (eerlijk is eerlijk, ook een beetje geholpen door de goede Mercedes motor) er ook gewoon twee goede coureurs in te zetten. Je kunt vinden van Perez, Ocon en lange tijd Hulkenberg maar dat zijn gewoon constante coureurs die met regelmaat punten scoren.

    • + 2
    • 9 okt 2017 - 12:39
  • Simplistische standpunt.... Alsof slechts het budget alles bepalend is... Slim zijn is niet genoeg?? Mwah, vraag even aan Ros Brawn , of aan de olie-stokers van Mercedes en Ferrari, de flexvleugels, en weet ik wat er allemaal voor een slimmigheden beslissend zijn geweest voor de titel..... dat soort trucs zijn wel degelijk slimmigheden....

    • + 2
    • 9 okt 2017 - 13:05
  • vjenne

    Posts: 564

    Hier een lijstje met budgetten van de teams, dit betreft alleen het budget voor het raceteam en niet voor de ontwikkeling van de motor.

    Force India
    Budget: 109 miljoen
    Personeel: 380 personen

    Sauber
    Budget: 109 miljoen
    Personeel: 210 personen

    Haas F1
    Budget: 115 miljoen
    Personeel: 210 personen

    Toro Rosso
    Budget: 115 miljoen
    Personeel: 350 personen

    Williams
    Budget: 120 miljoen
    Personeel: 530 personen

    Renault
    Budget: 172 miljoen
    Personeel: 600 personen

    Maclaren
    Budget: 212 miljoen
    Personeel: 730 personen

    Red Bull
    Budget: 250 miljoen
    Personeel: ??? personen

    Ferrari
    Budget: 260 miljoen
    Personeel: 900 personen

    Mercedes
    Budget: 310 miljoen
    Personeel: 850 personen

    • + 1
    • 9 okt 2017 - 13:39
  • vitesse

    Posts: 1.524

    Doordat de rest om div. redenen een slecht jaar hebben.......

    • + 1
    • 9 okt 2017 - 14:50
    • Calvinh

      Posts: 2.263

      En vorig jaar? En daarvoor? En daarvoor?
      Je kan niet ontkennen dat er groei in zit, al jaren.

      • + 0
      • 10 okt 2017 - 01:34
  • FI is sterk bezig, alleen even niet vergeten dat ze een Merc motor hebben.

    • + 0
    • 9 okt 2017 - 19:06
  • Grindbak

    Posts: 261

    Nog even de kiezen op elkaar en doorbijten, dan kloppen ze Red Bull ook nog. Die hebben weer een motorwissel in het verschiet. Die Red Bulls vallen de rest van het jaar natuurlijk weer in de eerste ronde uit met die Franse prut motoren.

    • + 0
    • 9 okt 2017 - 19:12
    • vitesse

      Posts: 1.524

      Sorry, maar ken de geschiedenis met welk een "prutmotor", de ene na de andere titel binnen gesleept werd, denk aan Renault zelf. maar ook Benetton, Williams, RB, wat nou "prutmotor", 1 van de meest succesvolle deelnemers van de hoogste tak van de autosport, die door een stel gloryhunters aan de schandpaal genageld worden, verdiep je eens in de sport, ook VOOR het tijdperk Max V.!!!

      • + 0
      • 9 okt 2017 - 20:41
    • Benetton had wat aanvullende truukjes achter de hand en Red Bull heeft de titels binnengehaald met een motor die niet de meeste power had maar waarvan inderdaad de drivability okay was.

      • + 0
      • 9 okt 2017 - 23:29
  • Als ik Silver war Google kom ik uit op een documantaire over Mercedes 2016. Als ik pink war Google kom ik op heel iets anders uit.

    • + 0
    • 9 okt 2017 - 19:51
  • mediF1

    Posts: 2.841

    Minder of slecht betalen heb ik ook al eens gehoord . Feit blijft wel dat ze het niet slecht doen ten opzichte van TR en Renault en als je ziet wat ze er meer uithalen ten opzichte van Williams met de zelfde motor doen ze het inderdaad helemaal niet verkeerd.

    • + 0
    • 9 okt 2017 - 23:17

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