Ocon: "Niet eerlijk om Williams als degradatie te zien"

  • Gepubliceerd op 27 sep 2018 16:22
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  • Door: Niels Langenberg

Esteban Ocon is in onderhandeling met Williams en het Britse team is de laatste hoop voor de Fransman om ook volgend jaar nog Formule 1 te rijden. Het topteam van weleer staat op dit moment laatste bij de constructeurs, maar Ocon vindt het niet eerlijk om een overstap naar Williams als een degradatie te zien. 

"Natuurlijk ben ik in gesprek met Williams." Maar de vraag of hij een stap naar Williams als een stap terug ziet, ontkent hij. "De gesprekken zijn er en ik kan niet zeggen dat ik het een achteruitgang vindt."

Volgens de Fransman komt Williams er weer bovenop. "Williams is een geweldig team. Ze hebben in het verleden wereldtitels gewonnen en vorig jaar vochten ze nog hevig met ons. Ze hebben het nu zwaar, maar dat overkomt alle teams wel eens. Dus ik zie het niet als een degradatie."

mario

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De optimist zegt dat de top 4 ook in de top 10 zit ;)

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  • 27 sep 2018 - 16:32

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  • Nee Williams zoals het nu is is echt een springplank....kijk maar naar Stroll. Moet je wel een steenrijke pa hebben die jou erfenis er doorheen zit branden.

    • + 0
    • 27 sep 2018 - 16:23
    • In Engeland heb je ook van die ploegen die nu 3e divisie spelen maar ooit de CL hebben gewonnen. Daar doen dit soort uitspraken me altijd aan denken. ´ik ben er door valencia uitgetrapt maar vind het echt geen degradatie om voor notthinghamdownunitedforrest te spelen want die waren in de jaren 50 heel goed en hebben meerdere europese bekers gewonnen´ :p

      • + 1
      • 27 sep 2018 - 16:29
    • Dutch het is ook geen springplank als hij maar F1 kan rijden dat is belangrijk voor volgens Toto want rijdt hij in de toekomst voor MB.

      • + 0
      • 27 sep 2018 - 16:44
    • JAN ALMERE, Zo zie ik het ook, het is beter voor de carrière van Ocon om gewoon in een F1 wagen te rijden, of dat in het middenveld of stijf achteraan is in dit geval niet het belangrijkste. Mocht Ocon zeggen dat Williams een paar stappen achteruit is voor hem zal hij weinig kans hebben op een stoeltje daar.
      Voor z'n carrière is het beter te rijden dan een seizoen niet te rijden.
      Een jaar niet rijden is een achteruit gang die mogelijk niet terug te halen is.

      • + 0
      • 27 sep 2018 - 17:00
    • Yup het Minardi van heden. Maar beter een stoeltje dan niets.. dan wordt je gauw vergeten.

      • + 0
      • 27 sep 2018 - 19:25
    • Mwa kan in 2019 zomaar weer eens beter gaan daar. Dus underdaad ocon niets mis mee om viir williams te rijden

      • + 0
      • 27 sep 2018 - 20:48
    • VES

      Posts: 1.424

      Toto heeft gezegd dat hij er alles aan doet om Ocon in de F1 te houden, als Williams niet lukt dan moet Bernd Mayländer voor verlies van zijn stoeltje gaan vrezen.

      • + 2
      • 27 sep 2018 - 21:10
    • z0mer

      Posts: 2.104

      JouW.

      • + 0
      • 27 sep 2018 - 23:17
  • mario

    Posts: 11.603

    Ocon is vandaag wel heel erg lief naar conculega's en andere teams....
    Het lijkt of hij iets nodig heeft ;)

    • + 1
    • 27 sep 2018 - 16:27
  • Natuurlijk is dat wel een degradatie Ocon. Van top 4 naar top 10 reken maar uit.

    • + 0
    • 27 sep 2018 - 16:27
    • mario

      Posts: 11.603

      De optimist zegt dat de top 4 ook in de top 10 zit ;)

      • + 3
      • 27 sep 2018 - 16:32
    • voor Sainz kwam er ook een droom uit toen hij bij McLaren tekende..Die G-krachten doen iets met je hersenen. Althans bij sommigen..Vreemd genoeg degene die degraderen.

      • + 3
      • 27 sep 2018 - 16:39
    • Beri

      Posts: 6.186

      Scorebord journalistiek

      • + 0
      • 27 sep 2018 - 17:35
    • SEN1

      Posts: 2.470

      Beri, het staat niet alleen in cijfers. Maar week in en week uit zien we dit ook met eigen ogen op de baan.

      Williams is helaas echt t zwakste team op DIT moment. Geloof ook niet dat ze het opeens het ei van columbus gevonden hebben. Hoop dat t snem beter gaat daar, maar vooralsnog heb ik geen aanleiding om daarin te geloven.

      • + 0
      • 27 sep 2018 - 19:22
  • Arie54

    Posts: 4.960

    Wat moet-ie anders zeggen als hij met ze aan het praten is?

    • + 2
    • 27 sep 2018 - 16:31
    • ´Het is een heel matig team op dit moment maar het is mijn laatste kans dus ik zal er wel vol voor moeten gaan, De wagen moet wel flink verbeterd worden anders zit ik na 1 jaar weer ergens anders´ ?

      Gewoon eerlijk zijn misschien?

      • + 0
      • 27 sep 2018 - 16:35
    • Lexx

      Posts: 803

      Eerlijk zijn werkt namelijk altijd in de F1. Vraag maar aan Frijns hoe zijn eerlijkheid gewaardeerd werd.

      • + 0
      • 27 sep 2018 - 17:09
    • DBGates

      Posts: 3.713

      Dat het een team is wat in het verleden heeft bewezen dat het weet wat winnen is en dat hij zijn Uiterste best gaat doen Wiliams neer te zetten waar het hoort

      • + 2
      • 27 sep 2018 - 17:17
  • Ach, bekijk het van de zonniger kant: ze zijn alles kwijt bij Williams: sponsor, suikeroom en de erfenis van vroeger. Genoeg reden voor Mercedes om er met Ocon en evt. Russell een compleet Junior Team van te maken, hebben ze zo maar drie teams rondrijden

    • + 0
    • 27 sep 2018 - 16:41
    • Beri

      Posts: 6.186

      Een sponsor die voor een pinda op de eerste banaan zat, een suikeroom die al zijn beloofde geld al gegeven had en dan toch het enige team zijn dat met grote regelmaat historische auto's inzet bij evenementen (leer hiervan Ferrari en McLaren). Nee echt, wat een top argumenten.

      • + 0
      • 27 sep 2018 - 17:37
  • Ik denk dat je als coureur in ontwikkeling beter bij Williams kunt rijden als bij bijvoorbeeld haas. Ligt natuurlijk aan je doelen en verwachtingen.

    Ocon wil gewoon leren totdat hij mercedes in mag stappen en daar voor overwinningen en de titel te strijden. de vaardigheden van een auto ontwikkelen/samenwerken met je engineers. Juist Williams wil nog alles zelf doen dus daar heb je als coureur veel meer kans om daadwerkelijk je skills in ontwikkeling te finetunen. het maakt in mijn beleving niet zoveel uit of je na een superwedstrijd p10 of p5 haalt.

    Haas is leuk voor een subtopper die de middenmoot toch niet ontstijgt.


    Als ocon werkelijk in de Mercedes komt en WK word zal niemand hem nadragen dat zijn 3e volledige seizoen een goed seizoen achterin de middenmoot was.

    • + 1
    • 27 sep 2018 - 16:47
    • John6

      Posts: 8.170

      Ik denk dat hij niet eens F1 zal rijden in 2019, en of Ocon voor Mercedes zal gaan rijden is helemaal niet zeker, zo goed ziet het er niet uit voor Ocon voor dit moment.

      • + 0
      • 27 sep 2018 - 17:00
    • Mwa, dat is nog de vraag, @Drukvulling. Ocon zal zich beter kunnen ontwikkelen in duels met rijders van het kaliber Ricciardo en Hulkenberg dan met de coureurs rond positie 18.

      • + 0
      • 27 sep 2018 - 20:44
  • Jerenes73

    Posts: 13

    Wat heerlijk politiek correct weer...
    Ik ben enorme fan van F1 en zie het silly season wel graag. Vorig jaar toen Rosberg plots niet meer meereed en Bottas zijn plek in nam, dit jaar Ricciardo die verkast naar Renault... Ik vind het mooi... Daarnaast al dat Politiek Correct gezwets kan me gestolen worden. Zeg nou gewoon eens waarop het staat.
    Ricciardo > ik wou geen 2de rijder worden/meer zijn dus ga ik naar een team dat me de status geeft die ik wil.
    Ocon > Het is mijn laatste kans door de stoelendans die er gaande is om in de F1 te blijven. Mijn doel is nog steeds om hier de beste te worden, dus probeer ik dat bij eender welk team me wil hebben!

    Maar goed, zo zal het nooit worden vrees ik.

    • + 2
    • 27 sep 2018 - 17:14
    • Yep.

      • + 1
      • 27 sep 2018 - 17:29
    • In dit wereldje wordt zelden de waarheid uitgesproken en veel diplomatiek om de hete brij heen gedraaid.

      • + 1
      • 27 sep 2018 - 17:32
    • @Jerenes73 En Stoffel die eens met de vuist op tafel slaat, en gewoon zegt dat het een teringzooitje is bij Mclaren.

      • + 3
      • 27 sep 2018 - 17:38
    • Jerenes73

      Posts: 13

      @SCHWANTZ34 ... Ook al zo eentje ja... Stoffel die een uitmuntend racer is en bij een gevestigd team komt. Maar ja, dan kom je naast een Alonso te rijden. Begrijp me niet verkeerd, ALO is een begenadigd coureur ook maar zijn ego en koningschap bij McLaren hebben Stoffel de nek omgedraaid.
      Hij had inderdaad eerder met zijn vuisten op tafel moeten slaan, maar als betalend rijder die geen geld kan meenemen naar een team kan ik me wel wat inleven dat hij het niet heeft gedaan. Helaas gaat er nu weer een groot talent in mijn ogen richting vergetelheid van de Formule E.

      • + 1
      • 27 sep 2018 - 18:34
  • Wat een onzin dat Williams volgend weer laatste gaat worden. Afgelopen 4 jaar is het team 2 x 3e geworden en 2 x 5e geworden. Nu dat Williams dit jaar laatste gaat kan het team niet meer terugkomen? Williams heeft een behoorlijk organisatie staan en die komen echt wel weer terug. Ik denk dat Ocon bij Williams beter af is dan FI voor volgend jaar. Lance gaat het team van FI niet verder helpen, eerder de vernieling in.

    Russel en Ocon volgend jaar bij Williams is een prachtige zet alleen denk ik dat Sirotkin nog wel een seizoen gaat vol maken bij Williams.

    • + 0
    • 27 sep 2018 - 17:51
  • Gezien de omstandigheid waar Ocon nu in zit is Williams het beste dat hem zou kunnen overkomen.

    Hij krijgt dan te maken met een pay driver. Hoe zal het worden in kwalificatie? 21-0? En in de races?

    Echt het maakt niet uit of Williams volgend jaar laatste team is of niet. Voor Ocon snijdt het mes aan veel kanten. Hij zal er positief uitsteken tov zijn toekomstige teammaat daar. Hij rijdt volgend jaar. Hij leert een moeilijke auto op het randje te sturen, wat hem sterker zal maken. En hij zal gewoon in de picture blijven van de f1 wereld.

    • + 0
    • 27 sep 2018 - 21:22
  • Als je geen feeling houdt met de F1-wereld is je rol sowieso uitgespeeld.
    Dan maar via Williams en wachten op betere tijden.

    • + 0
    • 27 sep 2018 - 23:03
  • Volgens mij hebben de meeste wereldkampioenen eerst een jaar achter in de subtop gereden voordat ze wk werden. Alonso, Vettel, Hamilton... Raikonen heeft het bij Sauber goed gedaan om bij Ferrari te komen...Ocon komt er wel. Eerst laten zien wat je in een mindere bolide kan, dan komt het goed!

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    • 28 sep 2018 - 07:41

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