Marko denkt dat Verstappen rol kan spelen bij mogelijke Porsche-deal

  • Gepubliceerd op 01 apr 2022 17:04
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  • Door: Bob Plaizier

Max Verstappen is overduidelijk de kopman van Red Bull Racing. De Nederlandse regerend wereldkampioen voelt zich overduidelijk op zijn plaats bij de renstal. Dat werd begin dit jaar nog maar eens duidelijk toen Verstappen zijn contract verlengde tot 2028. Het megacontract zorgt ervoor dat Verstappen straks 12 jaar actief is bij Red Bull.

Verstappen is naast de stercoureur ook het uithangbord van het team. Hij schittert regelmatig in promotiefilmpjes van de ploeg en ook voormalig motorleverancier Honda profiteerde mee van de populariteit van de Limburger. Inmiddels worden de geruchten over een deal tussen Porsche en Red Bull Racing steeds groter. De Duitsers zouden motoren gaan leveren vanaf 2026, als men besluit de sport te betreden.

Schaakspel

Red Bull-adviseur Helmut Marko denkt dat Verstappen nog wel eens een grote rol kan gaan spelen bij een mogelijke komst van Porsche. Tegenover Formel1.de is Marko duidelijk: "Max is zeker een belangrijk figuur in het schaakspel. Het is niet raar dat fabrikanten daarnaar kijken. In dat opzicht is het belangrijk dat het team kan zeggen, kijk wij hebben de beste coureur onder contract staan. Er vinden altijd gesprekken plaats over het binnen halen van iemand. Als je zo iemand hebt werkt dat ook stimulerend voor iedereen binnen het team."

Logisch

Marko wil echter niet te hard van stapel lopen. De Oostenrijker wil niet teveel speculeren over de toekomst en is daar ook duidelijk over: "Als ik nu goed ofzo ga roepen, dan gaan jullie ervanuit dat we al een deal hebben gesloten. Alles ligt nog open. Maar het is wel logisch dat wij de aantrekkelijkste partner zijn. Als je nummer 1 op de auto hebt staan in 2026 is dat prachtig. We zijn echter nog heel erg ver verwijderd van dat punt."

Sinds 30 september 1955 behoeft Porsche in de Verenigde Staten geen verdere introductie.

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  • Voor Porsche zou het wel goed zijn om in de F1 te stappen dan zouden ze in de USA ook eens kennis kunnen maken met dit Duitse merk.

    • + 0
    • 1 apr 2022 - 17:51
    • Sinds 30 september 1955 behoeft Porsche in de Verenigde Staten geen verdere introductie.

      • + 7
      • 1 apr 2022 - 20:02
    • Overigens heeft Max al goede contacten met Porsche. Privé rijden Max en de familie regelmatig met (eigen?) Porsches over de diverse circuits. Daarnaast os Doornbos nu directeur bij Porsche Rotterdam en ambassadeur van het merk, dus ik voorzie de all-Dutch line-up Verstappen - Doornbos in 2026 bij Red Bull Porsche F1 team

      • + 2
      • 1 apr 2022 - 20:35
    • @THW

      Meen je dat nou?
      Ik dacht werkelijk dat Porsche nog helemaal niet bekend was in de USA.... 🙄

      • + 0
      • 1 apr 2022 - 20:37
    • F1jos

      Posts: 2.920

      30 September is onze Max jarig , zou een mooie cadeau zijn.

      • + 0
      • 1 apr 2022 - 21:12
    • Stitch

      Posts: 6.063

      Vwb USA: Janis Joplin: "My friends all drive Porches ..."
      Vwb Porsche Red Bull: niet alleen Max is daarin belangrijk. Jos heeft samen met Porsche de LMP2 van Le Mans gewonnen ...

      • + 1
      • 2 apr 2022 - 08:31
    • Stitch

      Posts: 6.063

      ... My friends all drive PorSches ... ik was ff te snel ;-)

      • + 0
      • 2 apr 2022 - 08:32
    • Pas op Stitch. Straks komt LLarry aanzetten met dubbel LL

      • + 0
      • 2 apr 2022 - 09:07
    • Op 30 september 1955 om 17:45 uur verongelukt de 24-jarige acteur James Dean in Cholame, Californië , wanneer de Porsche waarin hij rijdt een Ford Tudor-sedan raakt op een kruispunt.

      • + 0
      • 2 apr 2022 - 11:55
    • Arie54

      Posts: 4.960

      De verkoopcijfers van Porsche in de USA stijgen al lang hoor: 2018-57.202, 2019- 61.568, 2020-57.294 stuks, 2021-70.025 stuks.

      • + 0
      • 2 apr 2022 - 13:33
    • @THW: Tsja. Uiteindelijk is het natuurlijk volkomen logisch dat James de voorkeur gaf om de Porsche 550 Spyder zelf naar Californië te rijden ipv in een trailer en zelf vliegen. Ik had exact dezelfde keuze gemaakt.

      • + 0
      • 3 apr 2022 - 21:17
  • Dale U

    Posts: 1.484

    Dat denk ik ook, Max is Premium klasse, alleen wordt Max gezien als een Nederlander en die afzetmarkt is voor Porsche erg beperkt. Een klasse coureur uit een groot land, heeft soms de voorkeur.

    • + 0
    • 1 apr 2022 - 17:58
    • Dan maken we er Nederland èn België van…

      • + 1
      • 1 apr 2022 - 18:15
    • Waarom denk je dat Max geregeld in het Duits voor de Duitse en Oostenrijkse televisie verschijnt ? daarnaast is zijn populariteit het laatste jaar in de Verenigde staten enorm gegroeid .

      • + 1
      • 1 apr 2022 - 19:05
    • Max rijdt zelfs Porsche. Afzetmarkt is achterhaald verhaal denk ik. Max is een wereldwijd ‘merk’. Mercedes hecht er blijkbaar ook weinig belang aan met twee Britten aan boord.

      • + 6
      • 1 apr 2022 - 20:22
    • Verstappen was zelfs voor zijn kampioenschap groter wereldwijd dan 9 van de 10 andere rijders. Zie die issue niet.

      De issue die ik wel zie is dat hij veel vloekt. Dat hoort echt niet bij de klantenkring van Porsche.

      • + 0
      • 2 apr 2022 - 09:09
    • @Snailer, heb je wel eens een Porsche rijder gehoord die zijn bolide in puin reed?

      • + 0
      • 2 apr 2022 - 09:25
    • Nee, want dat heb ik nog nooit gedaan met een Porsche. Wel met andere auto's. Vloeken niet waard die auto's. (en gelukkig niemand gewond.)

      • + 0
      • 2 apr 2022 - 10:57
  • Het salaris van Verstappen lijkt veel, maar RB verdient het veelvoudige aan hem terug…

    • + 0
    • 1 apr 2022 - 18:17
  • MaxRaw

    Posts: 735

    Niet te vergeten dat er al een link is tussen Verstappen en Porsche, zowel Jos als Max rijden geregeld op het Circuit met een Porsche GT2 RS en GT3 RS.
    Daarnaast rijdt de hele familie Verstappen en Kumpen al jaren zo goed als uitsluitend met Porsche modellen.
    In besloten kring is er al gesproken dat Porsche met Speciale modellen gaat komen als Max Verstappen Edition en VMax. Porsche kenners weten dat die laatste term in Duitsland gebruikt wordt als het gaat om de ‘maximumsnelheid’.

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    • 1 apr 2022 - 18:19
  • De geruchten (lees geruchten), zijn dat Porsche en Audi beide een team willen starten. Eigen motoren en alles. Dat zou mooi zijn. 24 auto’s.
    Ik denk alleen dat je als toetreder met motoren op moet passen. Aangezien het ook averechts kan werken. Lees Renault of Honda (tijdens McLaren).

    • + 1
    • 1 apr 2022 - 18:29
    • MaxRaw

      Posts: 735

      @Dutchiceman
      De teams hebben eerder al aangegeven dat 22 auto's op de grid het maximale moet zijn.
      Het is ook een publiek geheim dat er al nauwe banden (en afspraken) zijn met Porsche/RB/Verstappen en dat ze er geen geheim van maken dat daar een afspraak ligt.
      Audi heeft eerder al aangegeven geïnteresseerd te zijn om AT over te nemen, iets wat RB liever niet doet maar zal afhangen hoe de Mercedes krachtbron het gaat en blijft doen, ook McLaren en Williams hebben interesse getoond in samenwerking met Audi.
      Ik zou het zelf een sterke zet vinden als Audi besluit zelf een compleet nieuw en eigen team op te zetten.

      • + 0
      • 1 apr 2022 - 18:39
    • 22 auto's het maximale ? waar is dat aangegeven en wanneer?
      Die 20 auto's van nu is eigenlijk al armoede

      • + 1
      • 1 apr 2022 - 19:07
    • Ik ken het gerucht inmiddels, maar geloof het zelf niet zo. Waarom zouden ze dat doen? Met één blok kunnen ze meerdere merken promoten. Bovendien zou ik het ontwikkelen van snelle motoren aan Porsche overlaten. Dat gaat ze al lang heel goed af. Audi is ook geen kleintje, maar vindt het geen Porsche qua status. Maar goed, ik ben echt ontiegelijk bevooroordeeld als het om Porsche gaat. In mijn hoofd bestaat er slechts één echte auto en dat is de 911. De rest herkent mijn brein als veldvulling, nodig om in te halen 😉

      • + 1
      • 1 apr 2022 - 20:31
    • Verhalen elders suggereren dat het 1 of 2 merken wordt. Porsche wordt gekoppeld aan Red Bull als samenwerkingsverband.
      Audi zou McLaren willen overnemen.

      • + 1
      • 2 apr 2022 - 09:11
    • De geruchten over McLaren - Audi schijnen alleen (volgens andere geruchten) gebaseerd te zijn op het feit dat Seidl een historische band met Audi heeft. De komende tijd gaan we wel horen welke koers het kever concern wil varen en rijden.

      • + 0
      • 2 apr 2022 - 09:31
    • MaxRaw

      Posts: 735

      @M@ximumOverdrive
      In de reglementen staat dat er maximaal 26 auto's op de grid mogen staan.
      Dat zou theoretisch betekenen dat er 13 teams zouden kunnen deelnemen, echter is er (ik dacht in 2018) ook een regel opgenomen dat teams ook kunnen besluiten om 3 auto's op de grid te hebben ipv 2.
      Onder huidige regels is dat echter niet mogelijk, dan moet het punten systeem ook aangepast worden.
      In 2020 hebben de teams aangegeven dat ze in principe geen teams er bij willen hebben ivm de verdeling van het prijzengeld, delen door 10 is nu eenmaal lucratiever dan delen door 11,12,of zelfs 13.
      Dat is ook de reden waarom ze willen vasthouden aan het hoge entree fee.
      Zoals het hele Kwalificatie format is zouden meer auto's op de grid voor nog meer problemen zorgen dus zou dat ook aangepast moeten worden, al dat aanpassen van regels kost de organisatie en de teams veel tijd en geld, dus daar zit niemand op te wachten.
      Ik zelf zou 26 F1 Auto's ook veel interessanter vinden maar ik denk dat ik hoogstens 1 team toegevoegd gaat worden in de periode tot 2026.
      Daarna is alles nog open.

      • + 0
      • 2 apr 2022 - 09:49
    • Dat kan, Snelrondje. Ik noemde het ook een gerucht.

      • + 0
      • 2 apr 2022 - 10:59
    • McLaren overnemen zou meer betekenen dan alleen het F1-team lijkt me dan. En juist dat zie ik niet gebeuren.

      • + 0
      • 2 apr 2022 - 11:26
    • Arie54

      Posts: 4.960

      @Cyril Ratatouille: Ben het helemaal met je eens. Er is in mijn ogen maar één klassieke bloedmooie sportwagen en dat is de 911 in al zijn (extreme) varianten. Ik zal er never nooit eentje kunnen betalen, maar dat geeft niet.

      • + 0
      • 2 apr 2022 - 13:37
    • Ik vind de diabolo toch wel erg mooi. En van nog eerder: kan geen genoeg krijgen van de E type jaguar.

      • + 0
      • 2 apr 2022 - 14:41
    • @DutchIceman; geruchten. Ze lijken me op weinig gebaseerd. Ik denk dat Porsche en Audi genoeg ervaring hebben in LMP1 om te weten dat het van de grond opbouwen van een F1 team belachelijk duur gaat worden waarbij de kans op succes de eerste jaren eigenlijk nul is. Het is commercieel veel interessanter (en veel goedkoper) om als PU leverancier op te treden. Bijna gegarandeerd succes (als het RBR - Porsche zou worden) en dus direct oogsten van je inspanningen. Wellicht struikelblokje; RBR gaat terecht eisen dat ze een exclusieve deal gaan krijgen, met als enige 2e team AT. Wat ook logisch is lijkt me.

      • + 0
      • 3 apr 2022 - 21:23
    • @CyrilR; ga dan vooral NIET in de ultieme Cayman GT 4RS een blokje om. Dan trek je wit weg. Porsche heeft de rondetijd op Nürnberg ring opzettelijk hoog gehouden om de 911 clientèle niet tegen de haren in te strijken. 😬 Als ik t geld had liggen zou ik ‘m direct bestellen .

      • + 0
      • 3 apr 2022 - 21:26
  • Leuk interview van afgelopen woensdag met Helmut Marko bij Formel1.de.

    https://youtu.be/AuqqyV6VRB0

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    • 1 apr 2022 - 22:05

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