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Horner verduidelijkt afketsen Porsche-deal: "Vanuit strategisch oogpunt geen goed plan"

  • Gepubliceerd op 16 sep 2022 12:08
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  • Door: Bob Plaizier

Vorige week kwam er een einde aan de onderhandelingen tussen Porsche en Red Bull Racing. De Duitse autofabrikant heeft verregaande interesse in de nieuwe motorreglementen van de Formule 1 voor 2026. Ze spraken geruime tijd met Red Bull over een samenwerking maar die gesprekken liepen spaak. Christian Horner geeft er meer duidelijkheid over.

Het was geruime tijd de verwachting dat Red Bull en Porsche de deal officieel zouden maken. Bij Red Bull deed niemand geheimzinnig over de gesprekken en de buitenwereld rekende op een deal. Langzamerhand werd echter duidelijk dat de gesprekken nogal moeizaam verliepen. Porsche stelde namelijk eisen waaraan Red Bull niet wilde voldoen.

Onafhankelijkheid

Red Bull Racing-teambaas Christian Horner ontkent dat de deal bijna rond was. De Britse teambaas wil niet teveel zeggen over de gesprekken maar is wel zeer duidelijk tegenover de internationale media: "Er was helemaal niets getekend en er was ook geen overeenkomst. Ik niet in detail zeggen waar de gesprekken allemaal over gingen, maar een van de sterkste punten van ons team was altijd de onafhankelijkheid."

Fundamentele eigenschappen

Het was duidelijk dat Porsche graag meer wilde dan alleen de motoren leveren. De Duitsers wilden een deel van Red Bull overnemen maar daar had het Oostenrijkse team geen zin in. Horner is daar zeer duidelijk over: "We wilden niet dat het zou verminderen of verwateren. Het zijn fundamentele eigenschappen van ons. Ik vind Porsche echt een geweldig bedrijf en merk. Het was dan ook een goede plan om te praten en de mogelijkheden te bekijken. Uiteindelijk was het vanuit een strategisch oogpunt geen goede deal."

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  • Lance Troll

    Posts: 121

    Even wat anders, hoe laat is de vrije trainig vandaag en waar rijden ze eigenlijk... nog nergens een tijdschema gezien

    • + 0
    • 16 sep 2022 - 12:10
  • Cavallino

    Posts: 3.627

    Ik kan hier wel respect voor opbrengen. Als Porsche je 'uitkiest' is dat een duidelijk compliment.
    Daarbij nemend dat Honda zich terugtrok (deels), maar mogelijks terugkomt op die beslissing gaf het RedBull ook wel een best sterke onderhandelingspositie, zo kijk ik er naar ten minste.

    Je verslaagt doorwinterde fabrikanten als Ferrari, Mercedes, Alpine (Renault) en je zet je strategie voort door Porsche alsnog wandelen te sturen en dat vraagt best wat moed.

    Hoedje af voor RedBull dus.

    Verder denk ik dat dit nu weer de deur open zet voor Mclaren.
    Ene Andreas kent Porsche natuurlijk en omgekeerd.

    Benieuwd hoe Porsche zijn weg zal bijsturen om alsnog zijn intrede te maken in de F1.

    • + 1
    • 16 sep 2022 - 12:21
    • Bulldog

      Posts: 685

      Hornet vertelde ook dat Honda wel terug mag komen maar niet als motorbouwer maar alleen voor de batterij gedeelte

      • + 0
      • 16 sep 2022 - 12:26
    • Pietje Bell

      Posts: 21.588

      Marko vliegt na de Singapore GP naar het HQ van Honda in Japan om verder te praten over een eventuele samenwerking met Honda.
      Honda heeft aangeboden om het ERS gedeelte te ontwikkelen, maar wil ook heel graag aan een team gekoppeld worden, dus niet alleen op de achtergrond werkzaam zijn.

      • + 2
      • 16 sep 2022 - 13:48
    • M@ximumOverdrive

      Posts: 6.934

      Elders las ik dus ook van Horner de duidelijke voorkeur dat hij wil dat de motoren zelf bij RBPT worden gebouwd

      • + 0
      • 16 sep 2022 - 14:40
    • Bulldog

      Posts: 685

      @pietje. Ik denk dat Honda alleen het ers gaat doen. Horner vertelde specifiek dat Honda niet meer terugkomt als motor bouwers. Neem aan dat jij dat artikelen ook hebt gelezen. Dus ben benieuwd wat eruit gaat komen.

      • + 0
      • 16 sep 2022 - 15:51
  • core2duo

    Posts: 1.512

    Zo dacht Frank Williams er ook altijd over, de tijd zal uitwijzen of dit een verstandige beslissing is. Dietrich Mateschitz is al een tijdje niet fit meer en flink op leeftijd. Een eigen motor is geen garantie op succes en het tijdperk Max Verstappen komt ook een keer op zijn eind dus een samenwerking met een kapitaalkrachtige partner is niet zo verkeerd. Daarnaast leunt Red Bull nog volledig op Newey dus in mijn ogen een best risicovolle beslissing.

    • + 0
    • 16 sep 2022 - 13:13
    • Ridertje

      Posts: 2.186

      Ook Newey is niet alleen bij RBR, en die ontwerpers worden nu ook al klaar gemaakt om het werk van Newey over te nemen.
      En anders hebben ze genoeg geld om een huidige top ontwerper over te nemen.
      Daarnaast zijn ze straks onafhankelijk op het gebied van de motoren, en daar werken nu al hele knappe koppen aan!
      Dus het ziet er erg rooskleurig uit voor een bikjes merk .

      • + 0
      • 16 sep 2022 - 15:35

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