Horner ziet reversed grid voor sprintrace wel zitten

  • Gepubliceerd op 05 nov 2023 13:23
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  • Door: Bob Plaizier

Max Verstappen schreef gisteren de sprintrace op het circuit van Interlagos op zijn naam. Hij reageerde gelaten en ook bij zijn team Red Bull Racing barstte er geen groot feest los. Teambaas Christian Horner vindt dat er iets moet veranderen en hij wijst naar een mogelijke reversed grid.

De sprintraces vallen bij veel teams en coureurs nog steeds niet in de smaak. Het format waarmee men dit jaar werkt is redelijk ingewikkeld en dat zorgt voor frustratie. Vooral het feit dat de auto's al vroeg in het weekend in het parc fermé worden geplaatst, zorgt voor ergernis. De sprintrace wordt hierdoor een soort kleine editie van de echte race en de onderlinge verschillen zijn hierdoor voor niemand een geheim meer. Dit zorgt ervoor dat de spanning voor de zondag afneemt.

Omdraaien

Ook Red Bull Racing-teambaas Christian Horner is van mening dat er iets moet veranderen. De Brit heeft wel een plannetje in zijn hoofd. In gesprek met Motorsport.com deelt hij zijn oplossing: "Houd het vooral makkelijk voor de mensen. Wat mij betreft werkt parc fermé na één training al helemaal niet. Waarom nemen we niet gewoon de stand van het kampioenschap en draaien we dan de top tien om?"

Prijzenpot

Het is algemeen bekend dat de hoge heren van de Formule 1 het format weer willen aanpassen. Volgens Horner is er nog niet gesproken over een reversed grid: "De sprint moet dan alsnog iets betekenen. We vroegen het ons na afloop al af of we elkaar nou moesten feliciteren of niet. Het moet meer een evenement op zichzelf worden, in plaats van een long run waar je een medaille voor krijgt. Misschien moet er een enorme prijzenpot komen. Dan is er in ieder geval motivatie voor die sprints. Dan ga je zeker gejuich zien."

 

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je vergeet het doorgeven van het stokje of moeten de auto's elkaar aantikken?

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  • 5 nov 2023 - 14:38

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  • Ik niet. Maak t speciaal gericht voor het team kampioenschap.

    Constuctor race:
    - Quali = op basis van gecombineerde tijden rijder 1 en 2 (1 lap shoutout)
    - Race = Rijder A rijdt eerste stint, rijder B wacht in de pitlane... bij binnekomst rijder A moet pitcrew banden op auto rijder B zetten en rijder B rijdt stint 2.

    Rijder A of B mag door team ook zelf bepaald worden welke volgorde ze op de baan komen.

    Eerste 8 teams krijgen punten. Laatste 2 (misschien straks 3) mogen hopen op punten zondag

    • + 1
    • 5 nov 2023 - 13:29
    • Ja en als het dan kouder wordt en het gaat regenen?
      Kansloos dit.

      • + 4
      • 5 nov 2023 - 13:42
    • je vergeet het doorgeven van het stokje of moeten de auto's elkaar aantikken?

      • + 7
      • 5 nov 2023 - 14:38
    • Ik las elders dat Perez de reversed top 10 grid wel ziet zitten. Ja. Dat snap ik dan volledig.
      Maar wat een onzin. Schaf dan kwali voor de sprint gewoon af en gooi balletjes met de nummers van de coureurs in een bingo machine en bepaal zo de grid.

      • + 3
      • 5 nov 2023 - 14:50
    • Da_Bartman@ desnoods een neuswissel van de ene naar de andere auto.

      Sprintraces in huidge vorm gaan gewoon niet werken. Ook niet met reversed want het is nog steeds dezelfde race. 24 rondjes knallen en hopen dat de soft t uithoudt wat bij de betere teams altijd beter gaat dan bij de mindere.

      Het moet significant anders zijn anders heeft het geen nut en kunnen ze beter de vrijdag afschaffen en VT1 en quali op zaterdag doen

      • + 0
      • 5 nov 2023 - 16:11
    • @Tyla, schaf ze dan gewoon af. Die sprintraces zijn nergens goed voor

      • + 2
      • 5 nov 2023 - 16:19
    • Volledig mee eens hoor @da_bartman. Weg ermee

      Maar Liberty is trotst op dit stukje van henzelf en zal dus heel veel gaan knutselen tot ze er achter komen (na een jaar of 10) dat dit onzin is.

      • + 0
      • 5 nov 2023 - 16:58
  • Als je omdraait dan niet alleen de top 10. Daarmee heen mindere teams nog steeds geen kans op punten en is het voor hun minder aantrekkelijk. Dus alles omdraaien

    • + 2
    • 5 nov 2023 - 13:30
    • En dan nog voordat de lichten op groen gaan het vermaledijde sprintformat afschaffen...

      • + 6
      • 5 nov 2023 - 13:43
    • Dat is nieuw, lichten op groen. Tot nu toe was het 5 rode lampen die uitgaan om de start aan te geven

      • + 2
      • 5 nov 2023 - 13:49
    • @Skibeest, lees even wat @Larry schrijft.

      Hij heeft het niet over de start.
      De sprint afschaffen VOORDAT de lichten op groen gaan.
      Nog nooit groenen lichten gezien?

      • + 2
      • 5 nov 2023 - 13:59
    • Het is een spreekwoord: Groen licht geven/krijgen (= toestemming geven/krijgen).

      • + 0
      • 5 nov 2023 - 14:31
    • Maar begrijp wel je punt (misverstand) @skibeest...

      • + 0
      • 5 nov 2023 - 14:32
  • Misschien dat Max er voor kan zorgen dat Horner zijn mening gaat omdraaien want de teamboss is nu van het padje...

    • + 2
    • 5 nov 2023 - 13:42
  • CTRA

    Posts: 4.040

    Reversed grid,
    Uitslag sprintrace is startopstelling GP

    • + 0
    • 5 nov 2023 - 13:44
    • CTRA

      Posts: 4.040

      Dan heb je gewoon 3 vt's, een sprintrace als kwalificatie en een race waar de punten worden verdeeld op zondag

      • + 0
      • 5 nov 2023 - 13:46
    • Reflex

      Posts: 568

      Nog nooit zoiets vreemds gehoord. Hoe ga je een startopstelling krijgen voor een reversed grid sprintrace?

      • + 0
      • 5 nov 2023 - 14:06
    • CTRA

      Posts: 4.040

      "Nog nooit zoiets vreemds gehoord"

      Waar denk je dat de naam reversed grid vandaan komt?

      • + 0
      • 5 nov 2023 - 14:21
    • CTRA

      Posts: 4.040

      Artikel zeker ook niet gelezen?

      Ook Red Bull Racing-teambaas Christian Horner is van mening dat er iets moet veranderen. De Brit heeft wel een plannetje in zijn hoofd. In gesprek met Motorsport.com deelt hij zijn oplossing: "Houd het vooral makkelijk voor de mensen. Wat mij betreft werkt parc fermé na één training al helemaal niet. Waarom nemen we niet gewoon de stand van het kampioenschap en draaien we dan de top tien om?"

      • + 0
      • 5 nov 2023 - 14:23
    • @CTRA, het moet niet gekker worden . Het allerbeste dat de F1 te bieden heeft is de kwalificatie. Dat wil je afschaffen voor een race met reverse grid? Laat de F1 alsjeblieft een serieuze sport blijven ipv van dat het een show met rare fratsen wordt.

      • + 4
      • 5 nov 2023 - 14:43
    • Da_Bartman; die rare fratsen en show is er al meer dan zat….

      • + 0
      • 5 nov 2023 - 15:54
    • CTRA

      Posts: 4.040

      @da_bartman,

      De hele sprint mag van mij door het putje.
      Maar dat gaat gewoonweg niet gebeuren.

      Dan is denk ik mijn optie beter dan alle andere.
      Totdat misschien iemand anders met een betere optie komt

      Dan blijft de race gaan om de punten.
      Is de sprint de kwalificatie en zijn er nog steeds trainingen.

      • + 0
      • 5 nov 2023 - 15:58
  • Horner wil minimaal 2 trainingen, en dat snap ik. Voorstel Vrijdag FP1 en FP2 Zaterdag de quali en de sprintrace met een reversed grid. Als je die de 1e 10 plekken omdraait heeft de top nog een kans om te winnen, als je de gehele grid omdraait niet. De top teams zullen deze sprint dan als training zien. Zeker als de quali als laatste event wordt gezet op de zaterdag. Hierna is er dan de parc ferme. Dit format wat ze nu hanteren is slecht.

    • + 1
    • 5 nov 2023 - 13:45
    • Dan zou ik als niet topteam geen nieuwe banden spenderen aan de sprint maar die bewaren voor de hoofdrace. Ook kan dan een extra setje ingezet worden in de kwalificatie

      • + 0
      • 5 nov 2023 - 13:52
    • Waarom zou je dan kwalificeren met reversed grid? VT1 en VT2 zijn dan volledig voor racestints.

      Rb Blijft in de box. Sargeant pakt pole... start die alsnog als 20 en RB op pole.

      • + 0
      • 5 nov 2023 - 16:17
    • Quali is voor de race op zondag, sprintrace geen quali..

      • + 0
      • 5 nov 2023 - 21:30
  • James Deen

    Posts: 24

    Alsjeblieft niet...

    • + 1
    • 5 nov 2023 - 13:48
    • Precies, er zit al te veel entertainment in F1.
      Laat de sport zoals ze is en tracht niet met allerhande trucjes dat te veranderen.

      • + 2
      • 5 nov 2023 - 15:19
  • @

    Posts: 299

    Reversed grid, ja, ik denk dat het wel een hoop oplevert qua sensatie, inhaalacties enzo, alleen in het geval van schades denk ik niet dat de teams er iets mee opschieten voor een sprintrace, de snelle jongens zijn aan het inhalen, de mindere goden crashen wat vaker, dus dat vergroot het risico op schade, ben benieuwd dan hoe dat in een budgetcap past

    • + 0
    • 5 nov 2023 - 14:17
  • Misschien zou Toto het telefoonnummer van zijn psycholoog kunnen geven.

    • + 6
    • 5 nov 2023 - 14:22
    • Dat is sowieso geen goede.geen 1 trouwens.betweters.zielenknijperts.ben 1 keer geweest,voor de lolz.en die liep huilend weg.

      • + 0
      • 5 nov 2023 - 15:00
    • ´Roy je moet minder je druk maken´
      Roy je moet niet naakt in de ah gaan lopen

      etc....

      • + 0
      • 5 nov 2023 - 15:04
    • Nou heb heb er ook wel eens mee te maken gehad.
      Ken er geen één die zo praat tegen zijn cliënten.
      En voor de lol? Dan heb je echt iets anders nodig uit dat zelfde wereldje. Vul het maar in, ik roep het al sinds 2015. Zonde van je uitkeringsgeld.

      • + 0
      • 5 nov 2023 - 16:22
    • De psycholoog heeft @Roy voor zijn lol gevraagd om niet meer terug te komen...

      • + 1
      • 5 nov 2023 - 16:56
    • Toch niet weg uit dit Forum Larry?
      Misschien als hij echt eens gaat het nog goed komt??

      • + 0
      • 5 nov 2023 - 17:01
    • Tuurlijk niet, @Roy is het forum...

      • + 1
      • 5 nov 2023 - 17:02
  • Norris is ook kritisch op het format en zei: Wat wij coureurs vinden telt niet, de teamchefs en Domenicali beslissen wat er gaat gebeuren.
    Ik zeg drivers namens GPDA ga in protest.

    • + 1
    • 5 nov 2023 - 15:24
  • Nordy

    Posts: 9

    Je kunt ook met zijn allen achteruit gaan rijden in de sprint, zoals in de jaren 70 met de dafjes.

    • + 0
    • 5 nov 2023 - 15:47
  • Maak er een kartrace van... (sarcasme)

    • + 0
    • 5 nov 2023 - 16:09
  • Ga weg met die reverse grid!!!! Hoort echt niet thuis in F1!!!

    • + 2
    • 5 nov 2023 - 16:10
    • Een reverse grid is leuk voor de Formido Clio Cup, maar heeft echt helemaal nycks met F1 te maken!

      • + 1
      • 5 nov 2023 - 16:28
  • Doe maar niet. Heeft helemaal niks met het DNA van F1 te maken.

    • + 0
    • 5 nov 2023 - 16:33
  • Het feit is dat men gewoon 3 dagen met actie wil verkopen. Dat is goed voor de organisators, sponsors, Liberty en de teams. Met dat gegeven is het afschaffen van de sprintrace (mijn voorkeur) geen optie. De huidige opzet geeft een veel te duidelijk beeld van wat er op zondag gaat gebeuren en haalt zo een stuk spanning weg. Ik denk dat een reversed grid (maar dan echt volledig reversed dus 20 op 1) genoeg afwijkend is om de de spanning in de zondag race te behouden. Zet er een mooi prijsfonds en punten tegenover, eventueel een apart kampioenschap en dan is er voor de minder sterke teams ook wat om voor te vechten. Voor de sterkste teams komt er een extra afweging bij, hoeveel risico ben je bereid te nemen.
    Ik ben voor.

    • + 0
    • 5 nov 2023 - 18:20
  • mario

    Posts: 11.603

    Als nou Max ook zegt dat ie het een goed idee vindt.... Dan gaat 99% hier ook om en vinden ze het ook een goed idee.... 😋

    • + 0
    • 5 nov 2023 - 18:35

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